2012/1/13 Ben Johnson :
> Okay that explains it very well. I have a friend with a farm who explained a
> little to me and the obligation makes perfect sense. But would you tag such
> ways as "private" or just leave them as default access? Farms aside, I
> struggle to think of examples of permissiv
"Permissive path" is a well-established term in the UK (at least in
England and Wales; Scottish law may differ concerning types of access
right, but I don't know the details).
According to the page "Basics of footpath law" on the UK Ramblers'
Assocation website
(http://www.ramblers.org.uk/info/bri
On 1/13/2012 6:07 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
On the semantics of access=permissive. I used to be confused too (not
that I'm not anymore; it's just that now I accept the definition).
"Permissive" sounds like you need a permit to go there, and in that
sense I found it perfectly fitting for the Itali
> Permissive means that you have permission by default. Is 'permit'
> better-known by non-English speakers than 'permission'?
To me this would be something different: I would assume that a permit
is some document expressing permission. For something tagged with
access=permit I would assume you nee
On 1/13/2012 7:05 AM, Michael Krämer wrote:
Permissive means that you have permission by default. Is 'permit'
better-known by non-English speakers than 'permission'?
To me this would be something different: I would assume that a permit
is some document expressing permission. For something tagge
2012/1/13 Michael Krämer :
> In writing this reply I thought about examples for permissive here in
> Germany. Thinking about that I guess it's kind of the default here so
> we hardly differentiate from "access=yes". Basically it would be any
> private way or road where access is not explicitly rest
Michael Krämer wrote:
Permissive means that you have permission by default. Is 'permit'
better-known by non-English speakers than 'permission'?
To me this would be something different: I would assume that a permit
is some document expressing permission. For something tagged with
access=permit I
On 1/13/2012 7:17 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:
When I was adding this:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/52984927
which is something that you do need an actual permit to access (on a
horse) I left the horse access as "permissive" but added a note against
it. I'm not sure that "access=permit" wi
> If you'd read what I was replying to, you'd see that I don't think
> access=permit would be a valid change.
Well, I in fact I did - being a non-native speaker I tried to answer
the question you've asked.
So either I missed some point or my answer has been ambigous. In case
the latter is true I'
On 1/13/2012 7:34 AM, Michael Krämer wrote:
If you'd read what I was replying to, you'd see that I don't think
access=permit would be a valid change.
Well, I in fact I did - being a non-native speaker I tried to answer
the question you've asked.
What I asked is whether non-English speakers t
Nathan Edgars II writes:
> On 1/13/2012 7:17 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:
>> When I was adding this:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/52984927
>>
>> which is something that you do need an actual permit to access (on a
>> horse) I left the horse access as "permissive" but added a note agai
2012/1/13 Nathan Edgars II :
> On 1/13/2012 7:17 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:
>>
>> When I was adding this:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/52984927
>>
>> which is something that you do need an actual permit to access (on a
>> horse) I left the horse access as "permissive" but added a note
What I asked is whether non-English speakers think permissive relates to
needing a permit because they're more familiar with 'permit' than
'permission'.
So in fact I did not get your question right. Sorry for the confusion.
Michael
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Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 1/13/2012 7:34 AM, Michael Krämer wrote:
> >> If you'd read what I was replying to, you'd see that I don't think
> >> access=permit would be a valid change.
> > Well, I in fact I did - being a non-native speaker I tried to
> answer
> > the question you've asked.
>
On 1/13/2012 10:57 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 1/13/2012 7:34 AM, Michael Krämer wrote:
If you'd read what I was replying to, you'd see that I don't think
access=permit would be a valid change.
Well, I in fact I did - being a non-native speaker I tried to
answe
Nathan Edgars II writes:
> I'm asking about permit vs. permission, not permissive.
I'm a native English speaker, but permission can be informal and permit
implies a document issued by an authority.
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 06:30:50AM -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 1/13/2012 6:07 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
> >On the semantics of access=permissive. I used to be confused too (not
> >that I'm not anymore; it's just that now I accept the definition).
> >"Permissive" sounds like you need a permi
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 07:24:22AM -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 1/13/2012 7:17 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:
> >When I was adding this:
> >
> >http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/52984927
> >
> >which is something that you do need an actual permit to access (on a
> >horse) I left the horse acce
Another variation that I've heard of is a farm internal road that the
farmer allows cyclists to use provided they sign a disclaimer that
they won't sue him for any accidents they have along the road (or
something like that, maybe using the road is taken to indicate
agreement with the conditions).
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