[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Relations/Proposed/Level Map

2011-10-12 Thread osm-marl
Dear all, in order to create an easy way of mapping stacked, identical structures and vertical ways, I have created the proposal of a level map. The main purpose is to be able to map ways of general interest through multi-floor buildings (in particular where multiple "rounds" through staircas

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi. The proposal for marking building entrances with entrance=* tags was discussed a year and a half ago, but didn't really go anywhere: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance Notice that there is a conversion mentioned in it, from deprecated building=entrance. Yesterday

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/12/2011 11:12 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: An hour ago there was a big changset (#9541529) from one of belarusian mappers changing 21640 building=entrance to entrance=yes in several countries, including Russia. This is not the first attempt, and I'm undoing it now. Please let them know tha

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 10/12/2011 11:12 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: It was also observed on the french mailing list today. The tag itself has been discussed on this list in Nov.2010: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-November/005872.html It was

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
Pieren wrote: > It was not widely discussed but the proposal seems to be accepted as > an improvement. But deprecating a tag is never easy in OSM. It needs a > large consensus, a wide audience and time ... The proposal is actually well designed in that regard. It doesn't redefine any existing tags

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: > Hi. The proposal for marking building entrances with entrance=* tags was > discussed a year and a half ago, but didn't really go anywhere: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance > > An hour ago there was a big changs

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: > > aren't we better of without building=entrance? I really > hope that DWG can be kept out of this. > > Further I would like to propose railway=subway_entrance => > entrance=public_transport, since

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: >> Hi. The proposal for marking building entrances with entrance=* tags was >> discussed a year and a half ago, but didn't really go anywhere: >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pro

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 10/12/2011 6:52 PM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: Please let me know when did my private renderer for those building=entrances cease being something that renders (besides the times when my VM is down of course :-))? ...Honestly, I think you just _assumed_ that nobody is using the data for anything (and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Mann
I think you meant "might be advised" rather than "need" On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > If entrance=* is being used at all, you need to change your rendering to > support it, whether or not existing building=entrances are being changed. > __

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Erik Johansson wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: >> >> aren't we better of without building=entrance? I really >> hope that DWG can be kept out of this. >> >> Further I would like to propose

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 10/12/2011 6:52 PM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > > Please let me know when did my private renderer for those > > building=entrances cease being something that renders (besides the > > times > > when my VM is down of course :-))? ...Honestly, I think you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > But that's still besides my point which > is that deprication should be handled properly instead of giving those > "hints" for DWG to not interfere on mass removal even before anything > is official. > > FYI, I'm not against the proposal itse

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Ilya Zverev
So, how about proposals to replace tags globally? For example, after this proposal is accepted, we could start voting on mass-retagging entrances, so 1) it's official; 2) most data consumers get to know about the change and adjust their software accordingly? With this we could make a precedent

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread André Riedel
2011/10/13 Erik Johansson : > Further I would like to propose railway=subway_entrance => > entrance=public_transport, since it's probably interesting to have on > bus/boat/rail terminals as well, now this is a bit more tricky since > it already renders. As the creator of the proposal I do not like