[Tagging] Mountain passes

2011-02-13 Thread Nathan Edgars II
According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mountain_pass "passes only make sense on ways". But it's possible to have a pass with no way crossing it (not even an informal footpath) or with multiple ways crossing (a dual carriageway, or parallel highway and railway). How should these cas

Re: [Tagging] Mountain passes

2011-02-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/13 Nathan Edgars II : > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mountain_pass "passes > only make sense on ways". But it's possible to have a pass with no way > crossing it (not even an informal footpath) or with multiple ways crossing > (a dual carriageway, or parallel highway a

Re: [Tagging] Mountain passes

2011-02-13 Thread john
I guess this partly comes down to the questions of how you define a way, and how you define a pass. If a particular pass becomes little-used, because a tunnel or a lower pass provides an easier way to get past the mountains, does that make it stop being a pass? What if the pass is a boundary b

Re: [Tagging] Mountain passes

2011-02-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 13.02.2011 20:57, schrieb j...@jfeldredge.com: I guess this partly comes down to the questions of how you define a way, and how you define a pass. If a particular pass becomes little-used, because a tunnel or a lower pass provides an easier way to get past the mountains, does that make it

Re: [Tagging] Mountain passes

2011-02-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote: > P.S: What bugs me more is the (not so un)common practice to put the node > near the way (where the sign is?) and not exactly on the road. This makes it > difficult for renderers to detect the kind of way a pass "provides" ... That makes sense

Re: [Tagging] Mountain passes

2011-02-13 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 2/13/2011 6:07 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: That makes sense if you think of a pass being a locality ("we had a picnic up at the pass") rather than a particular road feature ("we drove over the pass"). I would probably do the same thing, naïvely. Probably a more intuitive tag would have been high

Re: [Tagging] Mountain passes

2011-02-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 14.02.2011 00:07, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote: P.S: What bugs me more is the (not so un)common practice to put the node near the way (where the sign is?) and not exactly on the road. This makes it difficult for renderers to detect the kind of way

Re: [Tagging] Mountain passes

2011-02-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote: > That was the start of the discussion in 2007, but was changed due to the > changes (around the same time) of highway=tunnel / highway=bridge to > tunnel=yes / bridge=yes - so using the same logic for passes seemed like a > good idea then ...