Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/20 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > If you miss something, please report here so that we can extend the > proposal. I've never found an appropriate tag for those bollards that can retract down into the road. They're usually controlled by a remote, and they're often used to prevent non-authorized tra

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 21 September 2010 17:32, Simone Saviolo wrote: > I've never found an appropriate tag for those bollards that can > retract down into the road. They're usually controlled by a remote, > and they're often used to prevent non-authorized traffic from entering > a road (for example, to reserve it fo

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 21 September 2010 17:32, Simone Saviolo wrote: > I've never found an appropriate tag for those bollards that can barrier=bollard bollard=retractable|removeable|collapsible|flexible manual=yes/no ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/21 John Smith : > On 21 September 2010 17:32, Simone Saviolo wrote: >> I've never found an appropriate tag for those bollards that can > > barrier=bollard > bollard=retractable|removeable|collapsible|flexible > manual=yes/no Manual? Is this to differentiate between a) on-demand rectratable

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 21 September 2010 18:28, Simone Saviolo wrote: > Manual? Is this to differentiate between a) on-demand rectratable Manual as in they usually have a padlock or a built in key slot to manually retract or remove them, as opposed to some kind of motor operated mechanism... ___

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/9/21 John Smith : > On 21 September 2010 18:28, Simone Saviolo wrote: >> Manual? Is this to differentiate between a) on-demand rectratable > > Manual as in they usually have a padlock or a built in key slot to > manually retract or remove them, as opposed to some kind of motor > operated mech

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 21 September 2010 18:40, Simone Saviolo wrote: > Should we also tag whether it can be remotely activated? Remote owners > won't need this information (as they already have the remote), but the > presence of a button or another device would be useful for those who > don't have the remote. To be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/20 John Smith : > That might cover mazes, but how about the rest of the amusement/theme > park options? > > I'm think someone suggested attraction=maze the other day... In which > case attraction=castle|dodgem_cars|ferris_wheel|water_slide|wave_pool| http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/T

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 21 September 2010 19:14, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > add your proposals there (or on the discussion pages). Attraction Done... > obviously only in case we can agree that this key can also be used in > parks and other contexts then playgrounds and theme parks. That page already shows several

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 Stephen Hope : > On 21 September 2010 10:08, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> maybe you can spot a more technic term? I'm sure they have a proper name ;-) > > Wikipedia seems to think they're just a subset of a Jersey Barrier - > mind you, even jersey barrier is a new term for me. I have

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/21/10 2:19 AM, Stephen Hope wrote: On 21 September 2010 10:08, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: maybe you can spot a more technic term? I'm sure they have a proper name ;-) Wikipedia seems to think they're just a subset of a Jersey Barrier - mind you, even jersey barrier is a new term for me.

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 Richard Welty : >  On 9/21/10 2:19 AM, Stephen Hope wrote: >>> maybe you can spot a more technic term? I'm sure they have a proper name >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_barrier#Plastic_Jersey_barriers > > Wikipedia is a little disjointed on this. > > Attenuator is generically used f

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/21/10 7:08 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/9/21 Richard Welty: On 9/21/10 2:19 AM, Stephen Hope wrote: maybe you can spot a more technic term? I'm sure they have a proper name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_barrier#Plastic_Jersey_barriers Wikipedia is a little disjointed on t

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 21 September 2010 21:25, Richard Welty wrote: > i'd say jersey_barrier is fine for the concrete, it's a more commonly known > term than k-rail and nobody will be confused by it. > > but i'd use impact attenuator for the plastic sand/water filled barriers. They may be similar, but one is a barr

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread Dave F.
On 21/09/2010 01:08, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/9/21 John Smith: On 21 September 2010 09:57, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Yes, which tag would you suggest? They are similar to guard rails IMHO Guard rails usually run parallel with the road, these barriers can be used to block the road to

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 Richard Welty : > i'd say jersey_barrier is fine for the concrete, it's a more commonly known > term than k-rail and nobody will be confused by it. > but i'd use impact attenuator for the plastic sand/water filled barriers. do we really need 2 different main tags for the same object in

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > This should be achieved by mapping them where they are (on a way). If > interrupted e.g. to let pedestrians pass, interrupt the line (way). to give an actual example: http://maps.google.it/maps?hl=de&ie=UTF8&ll=41.882023,12.500918&spn=0.003371,0.010568&t=h&z=17&l

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and l eisure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread Eric Jarvies
Hello, I would like to start adding the spanish names to the points/ways I enter, but need further clarification as to the correct way. Is this how to tag them?; name:English Name name:es:Español Or do I need to do this: name:English Name name:es es:Español Another question regarding pitch

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/21/10 8:06 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/9/21 Richard Welty: i'd say jersey_barrier is fine for the concrete, it's a more commonly known term than k-rail and nobody will be confused by it. but i'd use impact attenuator for the plastic sand/water filled barriers. do we really need 2

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 Richard Welty : > i would note that jersey barrier refers to a specific type, which > has two different slopes, designed to manage the direction > in which vehicles hitting it go. that's the one I was aiming at. > some of the plastic barrier > systems do look like jersey barrier inc

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and lei sure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 Eric Jarvies : > or is it?: > leisure:pitch > sport:baseball +1, generally this one. btw.: What do others use for swimming pools? leisure=pool? leisure=swimming_pool? leisure=pitch? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreet

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and lei sure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/21/10 8:49 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/9/21 Eric Jarvies: or is it?: leisure:pitch sport:baseball +1, generally this one. btw.: What do others use for swimming pools? leisure=pool? leisure=swimming_pool? leisure=pitch? leisure=pitch would be problematic. some swimming pools are

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and lei sure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I've used leisure=swimming_pool. Using just "pool" seems ambiguous, and using "pitch" (i.e. field) for water just seems too weird. Brad On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:49 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/9/21 Eric Jarvies : > > or is it?: > > leisure:pitch > > sport:baseball > > > +1, generally

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and lei sure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread David Paleino
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote: > Is this how to tag them?; > name:English Name > name:es:Español > > Or do I need to do this: > name:English Name > name:es > es:Español name=Name in English name:es=Nombre en Español David -- . ''`. Debian developer | http://wiki.d

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and l eisure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread Eric Jarvies
On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:28 AM, David Paleino wrote: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote: > >> Is this how to tag them?; >> name:English Name >> name:es:Español >> >> Or do I need to do this: >> name:English Name >> name:es >> es:Español > > name=Name in English > name:es=Nom

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and leisure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread charlie
Brad Neuhauser (brad.neuhau...@gmail.com) wrote: I've used leisure=swimming_pool. Using just "pool" seems ambiguous, and using "pitch" (i.e. field) for water just seems too weird. Brad Ditto. Though mapnik doesn't seem to render leisure=swimming_pool, which is a shame. -- Charlie ___

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and lei sure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread David Paleino
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:41:22 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote: > On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:28 AM, David Paleino wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote: > > > >> Is this how to tag them?; > >> name:English Name > >> name:es:Español > >> > >> Or do I need to do this: > >> name:Engl

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and l eisure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Eric Jarvies wrote: > > On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:28 AM, David Paleino wrote: > >> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote: >> >>> Is this how to tag them?; >>> name:English Name >>> name:es:Español >>> >>> Or do I need to do this: >>> name:English Name

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and leisure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread charlie
David Paleino (da...@debian.org) wrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote: Is this how to tag them?; name:English Name name:es:Español Or do I need to do this: name:English Name name:es es:Español name=Name in English name:es=Nombre en Español Is that right? I'd assum

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and lei sure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 : > Brad Neuhauser (brad.neuhau...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> I've used leisure=swimming_pool.  Using just "pool" seems ambiguous, and >> using "pitch" (i.e. field) for water just seems too weird. > > Ditto.  Though mapnik doesn't seem to render leisure=swimming_pool, which is > a shame. +1

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 John Smith : > On 21 September 2010 19:14, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> add your proposals there (or on the discussion pages). Attraction > > Done... > >> obviously only in case we can agree that this key can also be used in >> parks and other contexts then playgrounds and theme park

Re: [Tagging] name:English, name:Español and lei sure:pitch & pitch:? or sport:?

2010-09-21 Thread David Paleino
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:51:33 +0100, char...@cferrero.net wrote: > David Paleino (da...@debian.org) wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote: > > > >> Is this how to tag them?; > >> name:English Name > >> name:es:Español > >> > >> Or do I need to do this: > >> name:Engli

[Tagging] Tagging a currently-closed public athletic field

2010-09-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
Nashville, Tennessee, USA was hit by a thousand-year flood on May 1st and May 2nd, 2010 (that is, a flood severe enough that is unlikely to occur more than once in a thousand-year period). One of the consequences was that a small park, containing a softball field used mostly by children's teams

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a currently-closed public athletic field

2010-09-21 Thread Sean Horgan
John, Here is an approach that I took for a similar situation. I tagged some buildings that were damaged from Hurricane Ike in Galveston Texas as "disused=yes" and I place a note saying why. Here is an example of one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/914783304 I've heard others suggest

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a currently-closed public athletic field

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 September 2010 06:45, Sean Horgan wrote: > I've heard others suggest updating the current tag, such as > "amenity=disused". The only problem with that is it would obscure any amenities that may have been damaged that they're planning to fix etc, I'd stick with disused=yes so you know what w

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a currently-closed public athletic field

2010-09-21 Thread Sean Horgan
agreed. I prefer disused=yes myself but I wanted to at least mention another approach I've read. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 15:45, John Smith wrote: > On 22 September 2010 06:45, Sean Horgan wrote: > > I've heard others suggest updating the current tag, such as > > "amenity=disused". > > The only

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a currently-closed public athletic field

2010-09-21 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:45 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 22 September 2010 06:45, Sean Horgan wrote: >> I've heard others suggest updating the current tag, such as >> "amenity=disused". > > The only problem with that is it would obscure any amenities that may > have been damaged that they're plann