Re: [Tagging] How to start?

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew Errington
On Fri, September 17, 2010 15:55, Matthias Meißer wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > > nice job you are working on :) We have already start_date=*,end_date=* I > guess that fits your needs, right? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:start_date No, not exactly. I knew of these, but they are for historic

Re: [Tagging] How to start?

2010-09-17 Thread John Smith
2010/9/17 Matthias Meißer : > nice job you are working on :) > We have already start_date=*,end_date=* I guess that fits your needs, right? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:start_date I don't think those tags are used for construction dates... You could use a construction prefix though...

Re: [Tagging] How to start?

2010-09-17 Thread Matthias Meißer
Oh sorry was my mistake. Personaly I would preffer a namespace so construction:start_date instead of construction_start_date There are still other ideas how to model this 'lifecylce': http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Comparison_of_life_cycle_concepts Matthias

Re: [Tagging] sneaking in tags in the wiki

2010-09-17 Thread John Smith
2010/9/17 Matthias Meißer : > Therefore I suggest the wiki as 'neutral' plattform that allows everybody to > monitor changes and to do colloborate work (even if its bad for discussion > that has to take place somewhere else) The wiki isn't good, since most people won't be monitoring all changes ju

Re: [Tagging] sneaking in tags in the wiki

2010-09-17 Thread Matthias Meißer
Am 17.09.2010 09:09, schrieb John Smith: 2010/9/17 Matthias Meißer: > Therefore I suggest the wiki as 'neutral' plattform that allows everybody to > monitor changes and to do colloborate work (even if its bad for discussion > that has to take place somewhere else) The wiki isn't good, since

Re: [Tagging] sneaking in tags in the wiki

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 17. September 2010 09:21 schrieb Matthias Meißer : > Ok but it's hard to crosscomunicate. The only possibility I see are projects > like: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Updates > http://blog.openstreetmap.de (german week review) these are nice to get a summary on what has happe

Re: [Tagging] How to start?

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew Errington
On Fri, September 17, 2010 16:08, Matthias Meißer wrote: > Oh sorry was my mistake. Personaly I would preffer a namespace so > construction:start_date instead of construction_start_date > > > There are still other ideas how to model this 'lifecylce': > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Comparison_

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rental

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/17 Ulf Lamping : >> I won't use shop or rental with yes/no because it is against the >> convention. > > I don't know which convention you are talking about, as there is none today > in that regard. there is the convention for shop: shop= yes/no are no shop-categories. I assumed that renta

Re: [Tagging] How to start?

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
I also found recently information attached to a bridge (in a more technical and less representative way), actually a really small pedestrian bridge: http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/5953091 http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/5953084 Sorry that they are hard to read due to reallife taggin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rental

2010-09-17 Thread André Riedel
2010/9/17 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > 2010/9/17 Ulf Lamping : >>> I won't use shop or rental with yes/no because it is against the >>> convention. >> >> I don't know which convention you are talking about, as there is none today >> in that regard. > > > there is the convention for shop: > shop= > > yes

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Herding
Dear mappers, I have started a proposal on how to map mazes (labyrinths): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/maze I'd be happy to receive comments on the talk page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/maze Daniel ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rental

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/17 André Riedel : > I found this combination very often: > > amenity=fuel > shop=yes What does it mean? The wiki only has documentation for shop=kiosk in conjunction with amenity=fuel What category is "yes" in? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging maili

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rental

2010-09-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
At a guess, the combination of amenity=fuel and shop=yes means that there is a retail shop in addition to fuel sales. This most likely is what Americans call a convenience store. Typically, most of the inventory will be beer, candy, soft drinks, and cigarettes, with a small assortment of overp

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rental

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/17 John F. Eldredge : > At a guess, the combination of amenity=fuel and shop=yes means that there is > a retail shop in addition to fuel sales.  This most likely is what Americans > call a convenience store.  Typically, most of the inventory will be beer, > candy, soft drinks, and cigaret

[Tagging] Sea wall defence barrier

2010-09-17 Thread Dave F.
Hi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawall There appears to be only 7 occurrences of sea wall so I'm wondering if a different tag is being used, or maybe no-one's mapped them yet. Has anybody mapped this type of barrier before? Cheers Dave F. ___

Re: [Tagging] Sea wall defence barrier

2010-09-17 Thread Lennard
On 17-9-2010 16:28, Dave F. wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawall There appears to be only 7 occurrences of sea wall so I'm wondering if a different tag is being used, or maybe no-one's mapped them yet. Has anybody mapped this type of barrier before? During our import in The Netherland

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread John Smith
On 17 September 2010 23:30, Daniel Herding wrote: > Dear mappers, > > I have started a proposal on how to map mazes (labyrinths): > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/maze > > I'd be happy to receive comments on the talk page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_fe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rental

2010-09-17 Thread André Riedel
2010/9/17 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > 2010/9/17 John F. Eldredge : >> At a guess, the combination of amenity=fuel and shop=yes means that there is >> a retail shop in addition to fuel sales.  This most likely is what Americans >> call a convenience store.  Typically, most of the inventory will be bee

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rental

2010-09-17 Thread André Riedel
2010/9/17 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > 2010/9/17 John F. Eldredge : >> At a guess, the combination of amenity=fuel and shop=yes means that there is >> a retail shop in addition to fuel sales.  This most likely is what Americans >> call a convenience store.  Typically, most of the inventory will be bee

Re: [Tagging] How to start?

2010-09-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:46 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I also found recently information attached to a bridge (in a more > technical and less representative way), actually a really small > pedestrian bridge: > http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/5953091 > http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Herding
On 17 September 2010 23:30, Daniel Herding wrote: I have started a proposal on how to map mazes (labyrinths): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/maze Am 17.09.2010 17:05, schrieb John Smith: Wouldn't this just be a subtype of an amusement park? Maybe in some cases, you cou

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rental

2010-09-17 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/17/10 10:00 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: At a guess, the combination of amenity=fuel and shop=yes means that there is a retail shop in addition to fuel sales. This most likely is what Americans call a convenience store. Typically, most of the inventory will be beer, candy, soft drinks,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Daniel Herding wrote: > 2.) Mazes are often attractions inside theme parks. Such a maze is PART OF a > theme parks, but it is not a theme park on its own. I believe tourism=attraction is usually used for this. ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/17 John Smith : > On 17 September 2010 23:30, Daniel Herding wrote: >> Dear mappers, >> >> I have started a proposal on how to map mazes (labyrinths): >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/maze >> >> I'd be happy to receive comments on the talk page: >> http://wiki.openstr

Re: [Tagging] tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-17 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Anthony wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: >>> One test to apply when considering stuff like this: what would happen >>> if a renderer supported "man_made=tower" but none of the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 September 2010 03:31, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > No, absolutely no, a maze (actually a labyrinth) was the first piece Thanks for the history lesson, but that hardly applies to most modern mazes which tend to be made from hedges etc. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread Brad Neuhauser
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:05 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 18 September 2010 03:31, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > No, absolutely no, a maze (actually a labyrinth) was the first piece > > Thanks for the history lesson, but that hardly applies to most modern > mazes which tend to be made from hedge

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/17 John Smith : > On 18 September 2010 03:31, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> No, absolutely no, a maze (actually a labyrinth) was the first piece > > Thanks for the history lesson, but that hardly applies to most modern > mazes which tend to be made from hedges etc. actually this is not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
Well, amusement parks sometimes contain mazes, but I wouldn't classify mazes as a type of amusement park. They are also sometimes a feature of formal gardens; some hedge mazes have been in existence for centuries. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/17 John F. Eldredge : > Well, amusement parks sometimes contain mazes, but I wouldn't classify mazes > as a type of amusement park.  They are also sometimes a feature of formal > gardens; some hedge mazes have been in existence for centuries. +1 That was my intention to express when I ci

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 September 2010 06:32, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Well, amusement parks sometimes contain mazes, but I wouldn't classify mazes > as a type of amusement park. They are also sometimes a feature of formal > gardens; some hedge mazes have been in existence for centuries. There is an amusement

Re: [Tagging] Sea wall defence barrier

2010-09-17 Thread Dave F.
On 17/09/2010 15:57, Lennard wrote: On 17-9-2010 16:28, Dave F. wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawall There appears to be only 7 occurrences of sea wall so I'm wondering if a different tag is being used, or maybe no-one's mapped them yet. Has anybody mapped this type of barrier before?

Re: [Tagging] Sea wall defence barrier

2010-09-17 Thread Lennard
On 17-9-2010 23:29, Dave F. wrote: I've never been happy using man_made as it's far too general. (instead I tag buildings as buildings etc..) Mother nature sure didn't form these constructs. reinforced_slope is to vague for me. Sometimes it's just natural bolders & others it's a vertical wal

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/17 John Smith : > There is an amusement park near here, it's main attraction is it's > maze, there are some other side attractions, but these aren't the main > focus for visitors. I know of an amusement park, it's main attraction is it's castle. http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/parks/magic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 September 2010 10:27, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I know of an amusement park, it's main attraction is it's castle. You really need to work on your analogies, maybe you should have suggested it's main attraction is a mouse. Better luck next time. __

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maze

2010-09-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
barrier=hedge and highway=footway and the full area landuse=leisure with tourism=attraction name=* Although mapping the maze in detail would kindof take the fun out of the game .. unless the maze gets changed after the map is made and while the game is being played. :-) Then from the castl