Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Dave F.
On 10/09/2010 04:54, NopMap wrote: Hi! Because you only can assume that something probably is a landmark. But it is a fact that a tree ist not standing alone. I'd rather mark facts with a tag. But you're making assumptions that it's not a landmark. IMO, 50 metres does not make a "cluster"

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "NopMap" To: Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees Hi! M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: so 2 trees are a "cluster"? IMHO that's also agains your own intentions, because 2 trees can be as significant as one.

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:13 AM, David Groom wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something in this discussion, but what exactly is so > important about the fact that the tree is standing alone that it needs to > specifically be tagged as standing (or not standing) alone? David, Maybe you missed the begi

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Unnamed footways for pedestrian navigation

2010-09-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 10/09/2010 11:14, Tobias Knerr wrote: Lulu-Ann wrote: I would like to add loc_name-tags for this and name ways like "footway from village A to B, west of footway crossing in MyWoodName" Yes: Don't use loc_name (or any other key that contains "name") for this. It's not a name. It's a descri

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread David Groom
Serge Thank you for such a very helpful and clear summary. I had tried to follow from the start of the thread, but I couldn't see through it with the clarity you have managed. See some of my points below. - Original Message - From: "Serge Wroclawski" To: "Tag discussion, strategy

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Serge Wroclawski wrote: > Maybe you missed the beginning of this painful thread. Thank you for this summary. I agree to your position. I notice today a bot (called Nop) has starting changing tag on single tree by adding denotation=cluster I don't know what it means and what his the bot algori

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
He noted earlier in the thread that the bot is tagging any tree that is within 50 meters of another tree as denotation=cluster. The wiki says to use this notation for trees that are not single trees, but does not specify what distance distinguishes a single tree from a cluster of trees. --

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Tobias Knerr
John F. Eldredge wrote: > He noted earlier in the thread that the bot is tagging any tree that is > within 50 meters of another tree as denotation=cluster. > The wiki says to use this notation for trees that are not single trees, but > does not specify what distance distinguishes a single tree fr

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/10 Tobias Knerr : > For the record, I think that the denotation=cluster tag is a bad idea. > It's vague, overlaps with the other values of denotation and doesn't add > any information that wasn't there before. as I already expressed here: I completely agree. cheers, Martin _

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread NopMap
A few corrections are in order... Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: > > * Nop points out that the wiki definition of trees says a "lone tree" > and interprets this as a prominent tree (a landmark, etc.). > The wiki says: "lone or significant" tree and I interpret that as a prominent tree. Serge Wro

[Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] social facility

2010-09-10 Thread Sean Horgan
I'd like to get some feedback from the community on possible inclusion of "emergency shelter" in a "social facility" feature. I was discussing this with the author of that proposal, kerosin, as I'd like to fold the Homeless Shelter proposal into Social Facility. After just a little research, the

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/10/10 4:27 PM, NopMap wrote: A few corrections are in order... Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: * Nop points out that the wiki definition of trees says a "lone tree" and interprets this as a prominent tree (a landmark, etc.). The wiki says: "lone or significant" tree and I interpret that as a

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread NopMap
Hi! John F. Eldredge wrote: > > Perhaps i've miss something but i haven't see a discussion about a bot > Yes, you missed something. Check the posts from Sept. 7th: Tagging ML: Anthony-6: "Can't that analysis be expanded to the world, and the trees retagged?" M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: "can't you

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:00 PM, NopMap wrote: > I did what was asked for. You can't mark landmarks automatically, but can > add a hint to those that are likely unremarkable. Since it is just an > additional tag, it is non-destructive, unlike re-inventing the tagging > scheme. If you don't like it

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:54 PM, NopMap wrote: >> But it is a fact that a tree ist not standing alone. I'd rather mark facts >> with a tag. > > I suggest you start marking buildings which are within 50 meters of > each other with denotation=cluste

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
Actually, I did not write the statement quoted below. I posted a reply to Pierre-Alain Dorange, who had made the quoted statement. I explained to Pierre-Alain that the bot was reportedly tagging any tree within 50 meters of any other tree as a cluster. Incidentally, doing so is the opposite o

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:00 PM, NopMap wrote: > So please keep complaining, I am removing myself from the discussion. I have > made my point three times over. As far as I am concerned, the problem is > mostly remedied.  If you still think it is a good idea to destroy some 5 > nodes of inform