Re: [Tagging] route=fitness_trail

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Ineichen
Am Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:03:33 +1000 schrieb Steve Bennett: > These were pretty big in Australia too, maybe in the 80s and early > 90s. I don't see many new ones being created. Then go out and map it! ;) >> The stations are always quite simple structures, e.g. a post to strech your >> muscles, wood

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Ineichen
Am Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:59:19 +0200 schrieb Elena of Valhalla: > Anyway, there are motorway tunnels like the Gotthard one that have > just one shaft and one lane per direction, but they are few exceptions > and can be easily tagged oneway=no. JFTR: The Gotthard-Tunnel is a trunk, not a motorway. R

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Dave F.
I'm no expert but wouldn't there be some official definition between sizes? This is what I found on a quick search: http://www.answers.com/topic/airport-classification Cheers Dave F. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.opens

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

2010-06-14 Thread y...@o2.pl
2010/6/14 John Smith : > +1 maybe power=station should be the power stations and instead of > using sub-station just use power=transformer... Good idea. However for me, as non native English speaker, power=generator is also obvious. ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 05:31, y...@o2.pl wrote: > 2010/6/14 John Smith : >> +1 maybe power=station should be the power stations and instead of >> using sub-station just use power=transformer... > > Good idea. However for me, as non native English speaker, > power=generator is also obvious. In a power s

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

2010-06-14 Thread y...@o2.pl
2010/6/14 John Smith : > In a power station there could be lots of generators... Sure, but who knows where they are? ;) Anyway, I can create a proposal page with 'power' tags update. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openst

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 06:15, y...@o2.pl wrote: > 2010/6/14 John Smith : >> In a power station there could be lots of generators... > > Sure, but who knows where they are? ;) Inside the power station building? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

2010-06-14 Thread y...@o2.pl
2010/6/14 John Smith : > Inside the power station building? In most cases yes, you won't see them at satellite images. That's what I mean. If you think it's confusing maybe we should also replace this tag. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.

[Tagging] [education] tag insttitute

2010-06-14 Thread pavithran
Hi , The education heirarchy goes like this : University ->College -> School Where does a institute not bound/affiliated by any university fit in ? For esample a institue privately run and teaches 'french' or 'c,c++' etc . I also have seen that http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_featu

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

2010-06-14 Thread Liz
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 15 June 2010 06:15, y...@o2.pl wrote: > > 2010/6/14 John Smith : > >> In a power station there could be lots of generators... > > > > Sure, but who knows where they are? ;) > > Inside the power station building? > I've been to see a couple in my lifet

Re: [Tagging] route=fitness_trail

2010-06-14 Thread Liz
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > Some of the fitness equipment areas also have sign boards indicating > how you can use them, playgrounds don't usually come with > instructions. Found one at Glenelg in an unmarked park http://osm.org/go/uFw6q9Jp6- which is new with outdoor versions of mod

Re: [Tagging] [education] tag insttitute

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 08:01, pavithran wrote: > Hi , > The education heirarchy goes like this : > > University ->College -> School Here university doesn't come after college, you can do either, colleges usually give you more practical educates especially in trades. > Where does a institute not bound/

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 09:25, Liz wrote: > I've been to see a couple in my lifetime, most underground as part of > hydroelectric installations. > There is not a relationship between the visible building and the position of > the turbines which generate the power What about the smoke stacks? ___

Re: [Tagging] route=fitness_trail

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Thomas Ineichen wrote: > 'Station' sounds like a big shape.. (Ok, I started using it :) ) Although I just made up the term, "station" can be used in the sense of one step in a sequence (eg, "stations of the cross", "station in life") > Would fitness_post also be

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Zeke Farwell wrote: > Hi everyone, > You may or may not know that currently in OSM there is only one [rendered] > tag to describe the many different types of places where planes can take off > and land (aeroway=aerodrome).  I'm trying to figure out how we can tag t

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Liz wrote: > I've been to see a couple in my lifetime, most underground as part of > hydroelectric installations. > There is not a relationship between the visible building and the position of > the turbines which generate the power Maybe we could simplify everyth

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Zeke Farwell
Thanks for the link, Dave. I've though about similar classification schemes to what's listed there. Something like this in decreasing importance: aerodrome = international aerodrome = regional aerodrome = local The problem I see with this terminology is that it's more subjective, and it's harder

Re: [Tagging] [education] tag insttitute

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:01 AM, pavithran wrote: > Hi , > The education heirarchy goes like this : > > University  ->College -> School University is unambiguous. College means about fifty different things in different schools. ("University" in the US, "part of a university" in UK, "place studen

Re: [Tagging] [education] tag insttitute

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > College means about fifty different things in different schools. err, different countries. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [education] tag insttitute

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 13:04, Steve Bennett wrote: > College means about fifty different things in different schools. > ("University" in the US, "part of a university" in UK, "place students > live" in Australia, "secondary school" also in Australia... The Australia bit, it's usually "residential colleg

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Anthony wrote: > In any case, I don't think it should be called a motorway if bicycles are > allowed.  I suppose if bicycles are restricted to the shoulder it's arguably > still a motorway, but still, I think I'd rather see them tagged as > highway=trunk. This do

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 13:02, Zeke Farwell wrote: > Thanks for the link, Dave. I've though about similar classification schemes > to what's listed there. Something like this in decreasing importance: > aerodrome = international > aerodrome = regional > aerodrome = local > The problem I see with this te

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Zeke Farwell
Steve, I like this as a possible solution as well. Perhaps the admin_level tag could be used? Same as for boundaries. The challenges in my eyes are not making the tagging scheme overly complicated, and making if verifiable based on physical characteristics. In my opinion OSM only needs three l

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread John F. Eldredge
Also, how would you tag facilities that have one or more helipads (landing pads for helicopters), but no runways for fixed-wing aircraft? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexand

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 13:40, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Also, how would you tag facilities that have one or more helipads (landing > pads for helicopters), but no runways for fixed-wing aircraft? aerodrome=heliport? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstree

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Zeke Farwell
Well aeroway=helipad is documented on the wiki. Doesn't render currently though. Also I think that's intended to mark each single landing pad. I think if we can develop a consistent scheme then aeroway=aerodrome aerodrome=heliport would be better for a whole facility. But where does it fit in t

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 13:33, Zeke Farwell wrote: > Steve, > I like this as a possible solution as well. Perhaps the admin_level tag > could be used? Same as for boundaries. The challenges in my eyes are not > making the tagging scheme overly complicated, and making if verifiable based > on physical c

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Martin Fossdal Guttesen
What about this example 62.06, -7.27 (sorry cant get the link, openstreetmap.org is down) it is in Faroe Islands, we only have 1 small airport/aerodrome with 1 short runway (1250m) with few small buildings in the hole country From: Zeke Farwell Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:33 AM To: Tag dis

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-14 Thread Liz
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: > Secondly...I really can't see how the presence or absence of bicycle > restrictions changes the status of the road at all. In my area, some > freeways allow bicycles, some don't. It would be completely incorrect > to presume that those that don't are "mor

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Liz
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > I think we would be better classifying things based on approximate air > traffic per day, the number of run ways, and so no, alternatively we > could just tag these things individually: > > air_traffic=1000 > runways=10 as i recall, Cloncurry actually has 7

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 15 June 2010 13:33, Zeke Farwell wrote: >> Steve, >> I like this as a possible solution as well.  Perhaps the admin_level tag >> could be used?  Same as for boundaries.  The challenges in my eyes are not >> making the tagging scheme overly c

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 June 2010 16:05, Steve Bennett wrote: > While 3 levels might be enough currently, it might also be better to > leave room for more levels. Perhaps make it a scale out of 10, with > only numbers 3, 5 and 7 used at the moment. Numbers can be just as bad, what does 10 mean? is 1 the highest or

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Liz
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Liz wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > > I think we would be better classifying things based on approximate air > > traffic per day, the number of run ways, and so no, alternatively we > > could just tag these things individually: > > > > air_traffic=1000 > > ru