Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > > I propose to add the following to the Parking wiki page, in the table > of the "Tags" section, as follows: > (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parking) > > Column "Key": access > Column "Value": public/customer/private > Column "Element": [

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 18.05.2010 09:13, schrieb Roy Wallace: > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: >> >> I propose to add the following to the Parking wiki page, in the table >> of the "Tags" section, as follows: >> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parking) >> >> Column "Key": access >> Column "Va

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 17:23, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in > use for years. I was thinking access=destination although then you need to link the parking lot to the destination, although you probably would for access=customer as well since you

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/18 Ulf Lamping : > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in > use for years. +1 cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Tyler Gunn
> I was thinking access=destination although then you need to link the > parking lot to the destination, although you probably would for > access=customer as well since you might need to know where to spend > money, or window shop, to be considered a customer. I like this; access=destination defi

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-18 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
Hi, I had finally some time to write down some proposal of sub-tagging for leisure=garden as discussed earlier. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Garden_specification Since I'm no big gardener any comments and suggestions are more than welcomed. Regards, Petr Morávek signat

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/18 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" : > Hi, > I had finally some time to write down some proposal of sub-tagging for > leisure=garden as discussed earlier. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Garden_specification > > Since I'm no big gardener any comments and suggestions are mo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
There is maybe also some potential conflict with allotment gardens? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Ulf Lamping wrote: > > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in > use for years. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access says access=permissive means "The owner gives general permission for access." This doesn't seem consistent wit

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-18 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer napsal(a): > Thanks for putting this up. I would actually try to reduce some of it > to the necessary: > "The most common form of garden, located in proximity to a residence, > usually private access only. The main purpose is usually relaxation > activities. " - I would delete "

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Seventy 7
> > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in > > use for years. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access says access=permissive means > "The owner gives general permission for access." > > This doesn't seem consistent with parking restricted to customers. Do > y

Re: [Tagging] Tagging communication transponders

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
Here's a sample tower I produced, I'd appreciate any comments about the tags I used if there is better ones I didn't notice sample.osm Description: Binary data ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/ta

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Greg Troxel
"Seventy 7" writes: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access says access=permissive means >> "The owner gives general permission for access." >> >> This doesn't seem consistent with parking restricted to customers. Do >> you think this is a problem? I think, if access=* is to mean something

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/19 Greg Troxel : > I would call the first access=destination and the second access=permissive. yes, by thinking it over I also see some space for a restriction between permissive and private and destination is more "elegant" cause it uses an already introduced value for access. cheers, Ma

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Seventy 7 wrote: >> > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in >> > use for years. >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access says access=permissive means >> "The owner gives general permission for access." >> >> This doesn't seem

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Tyler Gunn wrote: > Almost all of these types of parking lots will have some kind of > notice that tow-away is enforced for unauthorized parking. So the general > idea is you're free to park there, ONLY if you're visiting the businesses > serviced by the lot. >

[Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
I'm currently going through mapping fixed position GPS receivers that are used for measuring tectonic plate movements, can anyone think of a better tag than man_made=gps_receiver ? It was suggested to mark it as a survey point, but these locations aren't used for surveying. http://www.openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Anthony wrote: > > Sounds like access=private, unless and until there's a more specific tag. > > Access=public?   No, the public has no right of access. > Access=permissive?  No, the owner does not give *general* permission to > access. > Access=destination?  No,

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, John Smith wrote: > > I'm currently going through mapping fixed position GPS receivers that > are used for measuring tectonic plate movements, can anyone think of a > better tag than man_made=gps_receiver ? > > It was suggested to mark it as a survey point, but th

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 May 2010 11:04, Roy Wallace wrote: > Isn't "measuring tectonic plate movements" a kind of "surveying"? > man_made=survey_point sounds right to me. You might be able to twist logic to extent to surveying but that doesn't make sense to me because these sites aren't used for surveying, they ar

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:09 AM, John Smith wrote: > > On 19 May 2010 11:04, Roy Wallace wrote: > > Isn't "measuring tectonic plate movements" a kind of "surveying"? > > man_made=survey_point sounds right to me. > > You might be able to twist logic to extent to surveying but that > doesn't make

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 May 2010 11:48, Roy Wallace wrote: > From wikipedia: "Surveying or land surveying is the technique and > science of accurately determining the terrestrial or three-dimensional > position of points and the distances and angles between them. These > points are usually on the surface of the Ear

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/19 Roy Wallace : > IMHO, those sites are used for surveying. Or at least they're close > enough to not warrant introducing a new obscure tag. +1 or at least a more specific tag than "man_made=gps_receiver". If you want a dedicated tag use sth. like plate_tectonic_monitoring cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/18 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" : > M∡rtin Koppenhoefer napsal(a): >> Thanks for putting this up. I would actually try to reduce some of it >> to the necessary: >> "The most common form of garden, located in proximity to a residence, >> usually private access only. The main purpose is usually r

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 May 2010 12:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > or at least a more specific tag than "man_made=gps_receiver". If you > want a dedicated tag use sth. like plate_tectonic_monitoring I wasn't feeling inspired today, which is why I posted to this list asking for tag naming suggestions on what to r

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/19 John Smith : > On 19 May 2010 12:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> or at least a more specific tag than "man_made=gps_receiver". If you >> want a dedicated tag use sth. like plate_tectonic_monitoring > > I wasn't feeling inspired today, which is why I posted to this list > asking for tag

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 May 2010 13:30, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Yes, but it doesn't get less if you put man_made=gps_receiver and > note=a_well_surveyed_known_position_with_high_accuracy_to_monitor_gps_signals Seems silly to waste space on stuff you can document in the wiki how about using man_made=gps_monit

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM, John Smith wrote: > > On 19 May 2010 11:48, Roy Wallace wrote: > > From wikipedia: "Surveying or land surveying is the technique and > > science of accurately determining the terrestrial or three-dimensional > > position of points and the distances and angles bet

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 May 2010 13:56, Roy Wallace wrote: >> Exactly, these locations are used to monitor the movement of a >> tectonic plate, atmospheric conditions and potentially drift of GPS >> satellite locations, none of which has anything to do with "used to >> establish land maps and boundaries" > > That w

Re: [Tagging] Fixed position GPS receivers

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
NASA has a list of 421 of these sites located world wide: http://igscb.jpl.nasa.gov/network/list.html "The IGS is a voluntary federation of many worldwide agencies that pool resources and permanent GNSS station data to generate precise GNSS products. In general, you can think of the IGS as the hi