Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:54 PM, John Smith wrote: >> cautious than we need to be. Why do we consider what's written on a >> street sign to be a "fact", but the same words written on a map to be >> copyrightable? And many similar examples. > > A map is a collection of facts, which may or may not b

Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-17 Thread antony.king
I've used 'smell' on the proposal; I think more people will know that word! As an aside, there's a playground viewer app here: http://ant.homelinux.net/maps/index.html which shows (as blue icons) any playgrounds created with the new schema. It's experimental at the moment, working with a snapsho

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-17 Thread Andre Engels
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:54 AM, John Smith wrote: >> cautious than we need to be. Why do we consider what's written on a >> street sign to be a "fact", but the same words written on a map to be >> copyrightable? And many similar examples. > > A map is a collection of facts, which may or may not

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-17 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/17/10 5:38 AM, Andre Engels wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:54 AM, John Smith wrote: > > >>> cautious than we need to be. Why do we consider what's written on a >>> street sign to be a "fact", but the same words written on a map to be >>> copyrightable? And many similar examples. >>>

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-17 Thread Jonas Minnberg
> > > * Unglue roads that share borders with landuses and move them into the > "correct" one (a residential road into the residential area etc). > > I'm kind of considering if this is right or not - if a road is the divider between two landuses, is it still best to unglue it from the landuse(s) and

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-17 Thread Pieren
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > > I'm kind of considering if this is right or not - if a road is the divider > between two landuses, is it still best to unglue it from the landuse(s) and > move it into one or the other? > > It's best to unglue but it's also not wrong to g

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-17 Thread Seventy 7
Personally I'm starting to use multipolygons more and more - define a "boundary" once and reuse is as many times as needed by the landuses either side. Steve - Original Message - From: Pieren To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Landuse border al

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-17 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Pieren wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > >> >> I'm kind of considering if this is right or not - if a road is the divider >> between two landuses, is it still best to unglue it from the landuse(s) and >> move it into one or the oth

Re: [Tagging] Updated cross-renderer/editor support table

2010-05-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/17 Steve Bennett : it doesn't seem to work for e.g. amenity=drinking_water (you list just Osmarender, but it is also displayed in Mapnik, the cyclemap and JOSM and probably others as well). cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstr

[Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-17 Thread Tyler Gunn
I was using the OSM maps for my city on my Garmin recently and when I listed the "parking" POIs I noticed a whole slew of parking showing up in there; mainly "unnamed".. It got me thinking why those are in there but then it dawned on me that in my area I've started adding in the parking lots and

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/16 Zeke Farwell : > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> >> IMHO yes, as natural is mainly about landcover (what you physically >> encounter on the spot) while landuse is about usage. > > If you want do some extremely detailed mapping you might make a lot of > d

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/17 Pieren : > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jonas Minnberg wrote: >> >> I'm kind of considering if this is right or not - if a road is the divider >> between two landuses, is it still best to unglue it from the landuse(s) and >> move it into one or the other? >> > > It's best to unglue b

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/17 Andre Engels : > Even if the collection is copyrighted, that does not make its elements > copyrighted. What is copyrighted in the case of such a collection, is > the (result of) the selection process that decides which facts are and > are not included. My first comment was not heading to

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 17 May 2010 21:00, Richard Welty wrote: > the other issue, of course, is when the map contains mistakes, which may > be intentional > on the part of the map maker. in this latter case, they are likely there > to create the copyright > claim. Again, it depends on the jurisdiction, from memory m

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > the other issue, of course, is when the map contains mistakes, which may > be intentional on the part of the map maker. > And then what about when the map mistakes become the commonly accepted name of the road, and then wind up going on the

[Tagging] Tagging communication transponders

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
The ACMA (Australian Communications and Media Authority) just released a data set of communication transponder locations for TV and radio station, a lot of these share the same mast/tower however this proposed feature suggests using multiple nodes to indicate multiple transponders but this doesn't

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Tyler Gunn wrote: > > 1. What should the "access" for these parking lots be?  access=public > would seem to be appropriate, but in some regards that's not entirely > accurate.  Almost all of these types of parking lots will have some kind of > notice that tow-away

Re: [Tagging] Tagging communication transponders

2010-05-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Smith wrote: > > The ACMA (Australian Communications and Media Authority) just released > a data set of communication transponder locations for TV and radio > station, a lot of these share the same mast/tower however this > proposed feature suggests using mul

Re: [Tagging] Tagging communication transponders

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 13:05, Roy Wallace wrote: > Separate entities should be represented by separate OSM elements. > Relations are "groups of objects in which each object may take on a > specific role", so I don't think this is appropriate here. You are grouping transmitters/transponders to a tower, an

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-17 Thread Tyler Gunn
> From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parking: > "The distinction between public parking lots, customer parking lots > (such as at cinemas etc.), and private parking lots (such as for staff > in a business park) is handled with access=* tags." > To me, reading that directly that would seem to

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Tyler Gunn wrote: > > > From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parking: > > "The distinction between public parking lots, customer parking lots > > (such as at cinemas etc.), and private parking lots (such as for staff > > in a business park) is handled with acces