Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

Hi On 2018-09-03 10:24, Volker Schmidt wrote: Bicycle and hiking routes are not rendered by the Standard OSM rendering (don't know about OSMAnd) They are rendered by OSMAnd and you can search for them by name. :D Cheers ___ Tagging mailing list T

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 18:25, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I am talking abut route relations and not about ways. > Thanks Volker. Sorry, I obviously misunderstood what you were saying :-( Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

On 03/09/18 18:24, Volker Schmidt wrote: Just for interests sake, if a route is tagged as both foot & bike, what would it render as? In OSM, cycle paths are blue, while foot paths are red. In OSMAND, cycle paths are blue dashes, foot paths are black dots. I am talking abut rout

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

(retransmission without photo) > How many routes are ciclopedonale in Italy? I have seen one in 8 days of >> cycling though Northern Italia, and it was a way or connection rather than >> a marked/named route. >> >> Mvg Peter Elderson >> > > Good

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

> Just for interests sake, if a route is tagged as both foot & bike, what > would it render as? In OSM, cycle paths are blue, while foot paths are red. > In OSMAND, cycle paths are blue dashes, foot paths are black dots. > I am talking abut route relations and not about ways. Bicycle and hiking ro

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 00:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 2. Sep 2018, at 12:23, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > > > the real objects I want to describe are really double-use and not the > superposition of two separate objects with identical geometry. > > +1, it is one route for both, so it wo

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

How many routes are ciclopedonale in Italy? I have seen one in 8 days of cycling though Northern Italia, and it was a way or connection rather than a marked/named route. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 2 sep. 2018 om 16:13 heeft Jo het volgende geschreven: > > My reaction was to how I read your mes

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

sent from a phone > On 2. Sep 2018, at 12:23, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > In addition would be only a work-around, because the real objects I want to > describe are really double-use and not the superposition of two separate > objects with identical geometry. +1, it is one route for both, so

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

My reaction was to how I read your message, it seemed like you would create 2 route_master relations and use those as members in a route relation. For foot and bicycle relations it is possible to use sub relations for parts in common between multiple routes, or if one route is designated separatel

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Jo wrote: > In public transport: > Walking and cycling routes are not public transport. Nevertheless (according to the wiki) route masters can be used with them. 1 (one) route_master relation for the line > > 1 or more (typically 2) route relations for the varia

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

In public transport: 1 (one) route_master relation for the line 1 or more (typically 2) route relations for the variations in itinerary. Jo Op zo 2 sep. 2018 om 13:59 schreef Paul Allen : > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Jo wrote: > >> You are inverting how route_master relations are used i

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Jo wrote: > You are inverting how route_master relations are used in public transport. > There the route master represents a line, and our route relations represent > the itineraries (all the variations). > Variant 1: you can walk. Variant 2: you can cycle. I d

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

You are inverting how route_master relations are used in public transport. There the route master represents a line, and our route relations represent the itineraries (all the variations). Polyglot Op zo 2 sep. 2018 om 13:35 schreef Paul Allen : > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Volker Schmidt

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > There are routes out there that can be used by bicycle and on foot. Up tp > now I have classified them as one or the or the other, tagging according to > the prevalent use. This is unsatisfactory and, strictly speaking, not > corresponding

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

Maybe it would be worth mentioning on the semicolon page that a lot of tools (including mapnik) support regex matching for tag values instead of simple equality. Just a head up for data consumers. Yves Le 2 septembre 2018 12:36:06 GMT+02:00, Volker Schmidt a écrit : >Maybe the correct (and te

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

Maybe the correct (and tedious) way is to make a formal proposal to allow multiple values in the route tag, have it approved, and then push the data consumers (renderers and routing algorithms) to use the multiple values. On 2 September 2018 at 12:28, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here i

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

Here is a route that is; a horse riders route a mtb route and a walking route ... It is displayed correctly here https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=176684 as a hiking route https://riding.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=176684 as a horse riders route. But misses out on the mtb! Presentl

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

Good question. I forget to mention that the handling of long relations is cumbersome, and even the duplication is a lot of work. In addition would be only a work-around, because the real objects I want to describe are really double-use and not the superposition of two separate objects with identica

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

I would also think that the bicycle part would be somewhat different (more split due to oneway traffic for bicycles on cycleways, whereas foot routes can take the shortest path in both directions), so I think the best approach is 2 route relations with quite some overlap. It is a bit annoying that

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

Why don't you Tage separate relations? Yves Le 2 septembre 2018 11:02:39 GMT+02:00, Volker Schmidt a écrit : >There are routes out there that can be used by bicycle and on foot. Up >tp >now I have classified them as one or the or the other, tagging >according to >the prevalent use. This is unsa