How many routes are ciclopedonale in Italy? I have seen one in 8 days of 
cycling though Northern Italia, and it was a way or connection rather than a 
marked/named  route. 

Mvg Peter Elderson

> Op 2 sep. 2018 om 16:13 heeft Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> My reaction was to how I read your message, it seemed like you would create 2 
> route_master relations and use those as members in a route relation.
> 
> For foot and bicycle relations it is possible to use sub relations for parts 
> in common between multiple routes, or if one route is designated separately 
> but is part of a 'superroute', but if I understood correctly for that case 
> both would be route relations.
> 
> That's not what this case is about is about though.
> 
> If the renderers and routers can cope with it, simply use a semicolon between 
> the tags, in case the members are exactly the same. If not, ask them to 
> update their software logic. In that case one route relation for multiple 
> 'modes of transport' suffices and we can keep things simple.
> 
> Polyglot
> 
> 
> 
> Op zo 2 sep. 2018 om 15:05 schreef Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com>:
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In public transport:
>> 
>> Walking and cycling routes are not public transport.  Nevertheless 
>> (according to the wiki) route masters can be used
>> with them.
>> 
>>> 1 (one) route_master relation for the line
>>> 
>>> 1 or more (typically 2) route relations for the variations in itinerary.
>> 
>> I don't understand what point you're trying to make.  Or how those sentences 
>> contradict the idea of using a route
>> master to cope with the variations of walking and cycling.  Unconventional, 
>> yes, but you're the person who invented
>> the reverse role for routes, so you don't let conventions bind you.  If the 
>> walking and cycling route weren't exactly
>> identical (as is often the case) but largely corresponded, would a route 
>> master be appropriate then?  If not, why
>> not?  It's a route from A to B with variants.
>> 
>> It was just a thought, anyway.  As I said, I didn't think through all the 
>> ramifications.  But nothing you've said so far
>> convinces me the idea is wrong.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Paul
>> 
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