Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-02 Thread Rainer Fügenstein
andy, thank your for joining this list. S> You might be surprised. that's nice to hear. finally, all the work may not have been in vain, after all ;-) S> To be clear, I don't think that anyone's criticising the change itself, S> just the notification of it. [...] but it would still have been n

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-02 Thread SomeoneElse
On 01/01/2015 23:34, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: pipeline mapping is the field of a small minority of mappers. considering this logic, established tags in fields of "minority interests" can never be changed, unless it becomes the interest of the majority. You might be surprised. As well as peopl

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-01-02 8:55 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald : > all 13 nodes have been checked and edited by me manually (not using >> search-and-replace). since this case is not covered in the mechanical >> edit policy, IMHO this policy does not apply. >> > > In my opinion this does not qualify as mechanical edit.

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-01 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! 2015-01-02 0:34 GMT+01:00 Rainer Fügenstein : > FR> I think it's a slippery slope problem. Agreed that 13 nodes is not a > FR> lot. But at how many would you draw the line? 20? 100? 500? > > all 13 nodes have been checked and edited by me manually (not using > search-and-replace). since this

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-01 Thread Rainer Fügenstein
hi, IJ> Won't this apply to your change: no, because I still insist on the fact that changing 13 nodes manually is not a mechanical edit. neither by the (small) number, nor by the way it was done. the main critique here is that a tag was changed during the proposal process (type=* to substance=*

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-01 Thread Rainer Fügenstein
frederik, FR> I think it's a slippery slope problem. Agreed that 13 nodes is not a FR> lot. But at how many would you draw the line? 20? 100? 500? all 13 nodes have been checked and edited by me manually (not using search-and-replace). since this case is not covered in the mechanical edit policy,

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 January 2015 at 23:26, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > However, I'd recommend you to use upload selection multiple times for > smaller areas so it wouldn't look suspicious to those who care about > "mechanical edits" only if they have a big bbox (or even use big bbox > as the practical definition for

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-01 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Thu, 1 Jan 2015, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: > can you please check the comments on this changeset: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27805365 > > short summary: manually editing 13 nodes is a mechanical edit that > needs to be discussed in advance, this list here is unimportant, > nobody

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 January 2015 at 22:52, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: > can you please check the comments on this changeset: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27805365 One of the points of discussion is on which list the discussion should have been held, talk or tagging. Apparently, Paul Norman has change

Re: [Tagging] hrmpf.

2015-01-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 01/01/2015 11:52 PM, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: > short summary: manually editing 13 nodes is a mechanical edit that > needs to be discussed in advance, this list here is unimportant, > nobody reads proposals and 18:4 yes votes don't count. I think it's a slippery slope problem. Agreed that