Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/16 Pieren : > +1 > I submitted a ticket to revert this change : > http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2970 > Mapnik cannot display all tags and all information in OSM. Showing all > private things will result of an unreadable map. It depends on the way the information is displayed. Of cou

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-16 Thread Pieren
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Katie Filbert wrote: > > Now, there is a new, somewhat faded "P" symbol that is used for non-public > parking. (both non-public parking areas/lots and points/nodes) > > I dislike this change, and wonder what the reasoning is behind the change. > > +1 I submitted a

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 May 2010 13:05, Steve Bennett wrote: > Anyway, fwiw, I completely disregard the "reasonable size" rule. It > sort of makes sense for nodes (ie, don't make an "amenity=parking" > node to represent only 6 spots), but not really for areas (the end > user will clearly see that it's a tiny car pa

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > Says that amenity=parking should only be used for parking lots, and > not other less formal parking. Specifically "A parking lot is an area reserved for parking cars, trucks, motorcycles etc. Parking spaces along streets are currently not

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Katie Filbert
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Claudius Henrichs > wrote: > > Am 15.05.2010 19:18, Serge Wroclawski: > > > So you should rather go for getting the access tagging correctly by on > > the ground surveying. > > I collect plenty of data fo

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Claudius Henrichs wrote: > Am 15.05.2010 19:18, Serge Wroclawski: >> 2) We fix the definition of parking and change the renderer. >> > Redefining an established tag won't work. How will you ensure that the > remaining... hundreds of thousands of occurances of ameni

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Katie Filbert wrote: > Regarding rendering, two weeks ago, a change was made to the Mapnik > rendering: Yeah, I forgot to mention that, since the changeset I applied last night was assuming the old rules. - Serge ___

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Am 15.05.2010 19:18, Serge Wroclawski: > 2) We fix the definition of parking and change the renderer. > Redefining an established tag won't work. How will you ensure that the remaining... hundreds of thousands of occurances of amenity=parking comply to your new definition? So you should rath

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Katie Filbert
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > > This appeared to be caused by the lack of access tags, since the > renderer assumes that in absence of an access tag, it renders as if > access=public were set. > > The polygons we received were of all sorts of parking- lots, side > par

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 May 2010 03:18, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > 2) We fix the definition of parking and change the renderer. > > #2 is my favorite solution, as it seems the most "right". #3 is my > least favorite solution, since it's all high quality data. A slight twist on #2, you add sub-tags. amenity=parking