Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Wiki created: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dthreshing_floor Please comment and/or edit accordingly. Às 17:53 de 12/11/2020, António Madeira via Tagging escreveu: Thank you, Joseph. If no one opposes, I'll do just that. Regards. Às 16:43 de 12/11/2020, Joseph Eisenberg e

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Thank you, Joseph. If no one opposes, I'll do just that. Regards. Às 16:43 de 12/11/2020, Joseph Eisenberg escreveu: Since the tag man_made=threshing_floor has already been used 7 times (https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=threshing_floor#values) you can create a page to document this,

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Since the tag man_made=threshing_floor has already been used 7 times ( https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=threshing_floor#values) you can create a page to document this, however, you would also need to mention that historic=threshing_floor is much more common (actually landuse=threshing_flo

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

So, given that most of those who commented this thread agreed that threshing_floor should be in the man_made scheme, should I add it to the wiki or create a Feature Proposal? Às 19:27 de 06/11/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 21:53, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 21:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Fr., 6. Nov. 2020 um 13:56 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > >> On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 09:09, Martin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >> >> ... >> >> To me it doesn't make sense to draw a line, dividing the same objects >>> having more or less historic

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Am Fr., 6. Nov. 2020 um 13:56 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 09:09, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> We do not distinguish "truly historic" wayshrines from "ordinary" >> wayshrines. >> > > We currently do not make the distinction because we lack the tagging to > do so. That is

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

This is not correct. Threshing floors do not have protected status in Portugal. There are some that are included in open air museums and maybe in archaelogical sites, but there are thousands all over the country and only maybe 10 or 20 are "protected". As I said, they're still used, although rarel

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 09:09, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Do., 5. Nov. 2020 um 13:59 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > >> This may be a losing battle but I'll point out (once again) that historic >> is not >> a synonym for old, disused or repurposed. >> > > I agree, the word "historic" isn't always a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 08:41, Jez Nicholson wrote: > > Is there a subtag to distinguish an historical/protected amenity from a > straight/unprotected one? > heritage=* and associated tags. For Portugal, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:heritage#Portugal For Spain, see https://wiki.op

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Am Do., 5. Nov. 2020 um 13:59 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > This may be a losing battle but I'll point out (once again) that historic > is not > a synonym for old, disused or repurposed. > I agree, the word "historic" isn't always a synonymon for old , but the things that we tag in "historic=*" are

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

heritage, heritage:operator, ref:??? appear to be used to tag official heritage status See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:heritage Nov 6, 2020, 09:26 by jez.nichol...@gmail.com: > I believe that a key point is that these threshing floors have protected > status in Portugal and Spain

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

I believe that a key point is that these threshing floors have protected status in Portugal and Spain due to their historical significance. The suggestion of using 'historic[al]' is to represent this. In other parts of the world, where it is in current use and not ancient/protected then perhaps it

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Yes, as I said in the previous message, it was my misunderstanding. Sorry about that. Às 20:02 de 05/11/2020, Mateusz Konieczny escreveu: I was referring to " I see there's a reference to this feature in this wiki page, bu

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

I was referring to " I see there's a reference to this feature in thiswiki page, but wouldn't it fit better in the man_made tag? After all,this is still an used feature, although not always with the original intent. " Nov

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Oh, I see what you mean. I was lost in translation I guess. As I wrote in my first message, they're still used for their original purpose in the Mediterranean area, although not as much as before, of course. Still, they are used for other purposes, like festivals, as you mentioned, family reunions

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

historic=wayside_shrine and some other values of historic=* are examples which show that the key "historic=" can be used for features which are still functional. A threshing floor is probably still usable for beating grain to remove the chaff and straw, as intended, but with modern machinery avail

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

I didn't get it, Mateusz. What does historic=wayside_shrine have to do with threshing floor? On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: We also have historic=wayside_shrine that is used for ones

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 17:25, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Nov 5, 2020, 13:56 by pla16...@gmail.com: > > On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > We also have historic=wayside_shrine that is used

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Nov 5, 2020, 18:22 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > > > > Nov 5, 2020, 13:56 by pla16...@gmail.com: > >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <>> >> tagging@openstreetmap.org>> > wrote: >> >>> >>> We also have historic=wayside_shrine that is used for ones that are not >>>

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Nov 5, 2020, 13:56 by pla16...@gmail.com: > On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> > tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> >> We also have historic=wayside_shrine that is used for ones that are not >> historic at all. >> > > Those are tagging errors, then. > What wou

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > We also have historic=wayside_shrine that is used for ones that are not > historic at all. > Those are tagging errors, then. > > Overall man_made=threshing_floor seems OK, though tagging also > his

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

Note that https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=threshing_floor#chronology indicates that most of uses were likely imported. We also have historic=wayside_shrine that is used for ones that are not historic at all. Overall man_made=threshing_floor seems OK, though tagging also histori

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

sent from a phone > On 5. Nov 2020, at 00:13, António Madeira via Tagging > wrote: > > In Portugal and all Mediterranean countries, there are thousands of thresing > floors. Most of them are not used anymore, of course, but they are still > preserved and are private spaces used for many pur