On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 21:53, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am Fr., 6. Nov. 2020 um 13:56 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com>: > >> On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 09:09, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> ... >> >> To me it doesn't make sense to draw a line, dividing the same objects >>> having more or less historic value. If there is something to distinguish at >>> all, my suggestion would be to add a qualifier to those objects of >>> exceptional historical value (if this is verifiable). >>> >> >> We have a way of tagging objects of exceptional historical value, it's >> historic=*. Objects of unexceptional historical value, or of no >> historical >> value do not get tagged with historic=*. That's because historic is >> not a synonym (in the real world or in tagging) for old, disused or >> repurposed. >> > > just that it is not what we are currently doing. > > That is not what some of us are currently doing. Others read the wiki page and tag accordingly. It occurs to me that some of the mis-tagging (as I see it) and some of the discussions here may revolve around semantics as interpreted by those who do not have English as a first language. There is a difference between "historical" and "historic." Historians are concerned with historical data. Old data (about populations, diseases or whatever) is historical data. The assassination of a minor archduke, which seemed unimportant at the time, quickly turned into a historic event. When somebody says that "historic" applies to everything that historians do, that is incorrect. What historians mostly do is look at historical data, some small fraction of which is also historic. See https://www.grammarly.com/blog/historic-historical/ for a better explanation. So historic=* really should only apply (as the wiki page states) to the important things of the past, not everything some random historian might happen to be looking into. So the question is, do we accept that because some mappers have misused the tag we should encourage that misuse or do we discourage it? -- Paul
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