2013/9/4 Marc Gemis
> But I'll admit that it would be better to if we could agree on using
> either name, brand or operator
there is some level of consensus (at least on a national level) how to deal
with gas stations, all three keys have their particular meaning, using only
one would not wor
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 2:00 PM, wrote:
> It's also nice to keep things a bit simple in OSM, because all records in
> the database need correct input and maintenance. I'm already seeing a lot
> of confusion on petrol stations. Where I just want to find the nearest fuel
> station (yes, I would lik
On 9/3/13 1:18 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
With the URL one can argue that no other details are needed.
think about it in terms of what you would search for and what
you would want to see in the results.
i might look up hardware or hardware store. i probably wouldn't
specify brand/franchise, bu
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
> i might look up hardware or hardware store. i probably wouldn't
> specify brand/franchise, but i'd want to see it in the results, e.g.
>
> Name Franchise Distance/Direction
> Tremont Hardware
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
> > With ACE what's important (I suppose) is that the store probably carries
> a
> > bunch of ACE products.
>
> Not to me. I don't think OSM is where we want to carry store
> inventories. We had that discussion on that list a year ago. Wha
It's also nice to keep things a bit simple in OSM, because all records in
the database need correct input and maintenance. I'm already seeing a lot
of confusion on petrol stations. Where I just want to find the nearest fuel
station (yes, I would like to have 99% coverage of amenity=fuel in OSM
worl
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> operator = Joe Smith, Proprietor.
> affiliation = ACE Hardware Corporation
> affiliation_2 = North East Hardware Cooperative
This is exactly the kind of over-tagging I'd like to avoid.
- Serge
> With ACE what's important (I suppose) is
While ACE is indeed a "franchise" since they file an annual FDD with the
FTC how about something weaker than "franchise"?
operator = North East McD Operating Company
affiliation = McDonalds Corporation
operator = Joe Smith, Proprietor.
affiliation = ACE Hardware Corporation
affiliation_2 =
+1 for "franchise="; that covers all types of franchises, and keeps
clear of "operator=".
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Yeah, I think I like franchise too. cooperative is not really import
from the consumer's standpoint.
operator is good but separate, and yes there is overlap, just like
there is with brand.
Perhaps someone who likes to write will write this up as a proposal?
- Serge
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>
>
> I don't like the co-op tag because normally co-op has the connotation
>> that the user of the store is a co-op member, not that the store is at a
>> higher level.
>>
> i agree. a coop tag used in this manner will lead to confusion and
> mistagging.
>
> +1
On 8/30/13 9:12 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
I don't think the distinction in their governance is important for a
map. There's a slippery slope somewhere where osm becomes wikipedia.
What's important is that there's a hardware store, and the name it is
known by.
I would use franchise. If you want to
I don't think the distinction in their governance is important for a
map. There's a slippery slope somewhere where osm becomes wikipedia.
What's important is that there's a hardware store, and the name it is
known by.
I would use franchise. If you want to make up "weak_franchise" for
stores tha
2013/8/30 Serge Wroclawski
> Each store prominently displays the
> Strosniders name and logo, employees wear the same uniforms, etc.
>
> They happen to be Ace Hardware storse, but as a consumer, I wouldn't
> know unless I was looking for it.
>
i.e. you could tag them brand=Strosniders and coop
The difference between Ace Hardware and a company like McDonalds is
that in McDonalds, you will have very strong branding associated with
the franchise. A consumer goes into a store labeled "McDonalds".
But an Ace Hardware store is a complex beast, because the branding is
all over the place, from
2013/8/30 Serge Wroclawski
> And since each store is branded uniquely, and don't always use the
> name Ace Hardware in their name[1] or other material, I don't think
> "brand" fits either.
>
> But we may want to indicate that the relationship between store and
> co-op exists, so in this case, sin
According to the ACE website, they are actually an coop.
*The Ace Difference*
The Ace ownership opportunity is unlike any other franchise opportunity.
Ace Hardware is a retailer-owned cooperative, meaning Ace retailers are the
owners of the corporation. In addition to being part owner of a world-c
Technically ACE (like their better known compatriots in Oak Brook, Il) is
a franchise:
http://www.franchisedirect.com/retailfranchises/ace-hardware-corporation-06448/ufoc/
It is just a really loose one, with no fixed territories of exclusive
stocking agreement.
The tag "ACE" is valuable, even if,
I would use "brand". They tend to have an Ace Hardware sign in addition to the
individual store name, and Ace Hardware advertising flyers.
Andrew Errington wrote:
> Either they are associated with Ace Hardware, or they are not. If
> they
> are, then it's probably easiest to use brand=*. I do
Either they are associated with Ace Hardware, or they are not. If they
are, then it's probably easiest to use brand=*. I doubt very much that
they are a co-op.
My suggestion:
brand=Ace Hardware
name=(the store name)
operator=(the name of the owner)
Best wishes,
Andrew
On 30 August 2013 11:55
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