Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Antônio Marcos
I think places like these event venues with already fixed facilities on the area can be fitted in the event place proposal, but these can sound like amenities or leisures. There are places with no buildings used for festivities that are more like landuses, though. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:26 PM,

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
When I think of leisure=events, I think of facilities (that are not convention centers) where you can hold social and corporate events such as company parties, wedding receptions, small musical concerts, product launchings and the like. Here in my country there are plenty of such facilities and I'm

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Yves
On 12 mars 2014 23:00:04 UTC+01:00, John Packer wrote: >I think it should be either amenity=* or landuse=*. >leisure=* sounds odd, since the place can be vacant most of the >time(and >not accessible during that time). ->This is an 'event'. Yves > > >2014-03-12 18:15 GMT-03:00 Martin Koppenhoe

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread John Packer
I think it should be either amenity=* or landuse=*. leisure=* sounds odd, since the place can be vacant most of the time(and not accessible during that time). 2014-03-12 18:15 GMT-03:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-03-12 22:12 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos : > > But still is there any other key oth

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-12 22:12 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos : > But still is there any other key other than landuse or leisure that fits > better with event_space? for me leisure is OK, amenity would be fine as well. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@ope

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Antônio Marcos
But still is there any other key other than landuse or leisure that fits better with event_space? On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, John Willis wrote: > > On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Antônio Marcos wrote: > > Are there any other keys that may contain the event area value? There may > be buildi

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread John Willis
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Antônio Marcos wrote: > > Are there any other keys that may contain the event area value? There may be > buildings >> I keep insisting that "events" is not a good choice as it is not >> self-explaining, and it is not a description of the place itself but of wha

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Yves
Leisure yes, landuse no. On 12 mars 2014 20:21:23 UTC+01:00, "Antônio Marcos" wrote: >I am still struggling a bit about the key that should be used with the >"events" value. Should I keep "leisure", as it is now, or change it to >landuse? What are your opinions on this, please? Thanks for the he

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Antônio Marcos
Are there any other keys that may contain the event area value? There may be buildings permanently installed on it or it may even contain nothing, being just a reserved/symbolic use of the land, so it seems to fit in both cases of landuse and leisure. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Martin Koppe

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-12 20:21 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos : > I am still struggling a bit about the key that should be used with the > "events" value. Should I keep "leisure", as it is now, or change it to > landuse? What are your opinions on this, please? IMHO there could be a landuse, but landuses hardly is

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Antônio Marcos
I am still struggling a bit about the key that should be used with the "events" value. Should I keep "leisure", as it is now, or change it to landuse? What are your opinions on this, please? Thanks for the help :). On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM, johnw wrote: > > > > IMHO we do indeed have no

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread johnw
> > IMHO we do indeed have no need for building=public / civic. if I were back in San Deigo, I might agree with that, but having come to Japan, there is a definite and immediately recognizable distinction of city buildings, *and* they are used quite heavily. There is a known difference and a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Antônio Marcos
I think areas used for temporary fairs would fit well in landuse=events. The case of a permanent fairground seems to be just like an amusement park, which can be just tagged as tourism=theme_park. What I want to keep clear is that event areas are permanent places for events and are lands reserved f

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-03-09 at 20:49 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-03-09 17:18 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos : > I have created this proposal some time ago for a new tag > called leisure=events (originally landuse=events), which > should describe areas reserved for events in

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Antônio Marcos
Thanks for the support so far, I think the leisure key doesn't fit good in the case, the event-destinated area is not a place where people generally go during the year in their spare time when there is no events, so it is a pretty specific land used and reserved for events. Also, the leisure tag w

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-10 12:48 GMT+01:00 johnw : > otherwise we would have no need for building=civic / public. IMHO we do indeed have no need for building=public / civic. Both can be considered vague building types, but on a very generic level, I'd encourage everyone to use more specific building tags. It i

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread johnw
Thanks for the quick reply Martin! I always assumed "commercial" => company => private. Same with "industrial => industry, otherwise we would have no need for building=civic / public. reading through what you wrote, it seem like most of my suggested civic buildings would be landuse=commerical

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Nick Allen
ndication of what the land is used for. Original Message From: Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: March 10, 2014 3:15:00 AM CDT To: "daveswarth...@gmail.com" , "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Cc: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
ot; , "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Cc: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] leisure=events > Am 10/mar/2014 um 00:36 schrieb Dave Swarthout : > > landuse=civic could you give some more examples what fits into this?

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-10 10:52 GMT+01:00 johnw : > Well, to me, landuse=civic it is the land that public owned, public > accessed facilities that not covered by a specific existing landuse (works, > water treatment plant, school, landfill, highways, railways). > IMHO we should not mix "specific" and "general"

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Pieren
+1 for leisure (not presuming any combination/overlapping with a landuse) -1 for events (could be misused for any events, not for a dedicated place) +1 for "event(s)_space", "event(s)_place", "event_whateveryoulike" Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Taggi

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread johnw
Well, to me, landuse=civic it is the land that public owned, public accessed facilities that not covered by a specific existing landuse (works, water treatment plant, school, landfill, highways, railways). In the built environment (not natural), there are some *general* landuses, such as: - 4

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 10.03.2014 um 09:30 schrieb Peter Wendorff : > And even other shared purpose concepts are pretty common for event > spaces, I think: > - Sometimes parks (most of the year leisure=park) are used for events > regularly. > - Many parking spaces (most of the year amenity=parking; > parking=surfac

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 10.03.2014 06:39, schrieb Yves: > Many music festival take place on otherwise landuse=meadow +1 And even other shared purpose concepts are pretty common for event spaces, I think: - Sometimes parks (most of the year leisure=park) are used for events regularly. - Many parking spaces (most of the

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 10/mar/2014 um 00:36 schrieb Dave Swarthout : > > landuse=civic could you give some more examples what fits into this? a public swimming pool? a courthouse? a library? a power station ? A wastewater treatment plant? the homeland security vehicle depot? a museum? a church? the federal m

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Yves
Many music festival take place on otherwise landuse=meadow On 9 mars 2014 22:41:51 UTC+01:00, jonathan wrote: >I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places > >around the UK this could apply to. > >landuse=events is better than leisure=* > >Jonathan > >http://bigfatfrog6

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Antônio Marcos
Thanks for the suggestions so far, Martin, English is not my native, so in fact I haven't heard about fairgrounds before :), but in the case I was referring to the value fairgrounds, and I knew about it by searching at taginfo after you mentioned it. There are some cases of "fairgrounds" being use

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Dave Swarthout
I like both of these: landuse=events landuse=civic Regards, Dave On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:41 AM, jonathan wrote: > I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places > around the UK this could apply to. > > landuse=events is better than leisure=* > > Jonathan > > http:

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread jonathan
I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places around the UK this could apply to. landuse=events is better than leisure=* Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 09/03/2014 21:31, Tod Fitch wrote: It seems to me that landuse=events is reasonable. Most of the places called

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread John Willis
This ties into my idea for landuse=civic. There is no way to designate the land use for city buildings, etc, except for narrowly defined ones, such as schools. There are courthouses, community centers, public performance venues, and other areas where the buildings have specific tags, but there i

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Tod Fitch
It seems to me that landuse=events is reasonable. Most of the places called fairgrounds where I am are used for other events other than the traditional once a year fair. There are often swap meets, animal shows, concerts, and other events held during the year. And the area often (always in my ex

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 09/mar/2014 um 22:04 schrieb Antônio Marcos : > > I've never heard of "fairground", but it seems to be a quite specific tag > that could be substituted by or even inside the events area. I understand fairground or maybe fair_grounds as word for the whole area, including service areas lik

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Antônio Marcos
I've never heard of "fairground", but it seems to be a quite specific tag that could be substituted by or even inside the events area. The events tag is indeed supposed to be generic, just like landuse=retail, which demarks areas used by shops, and the leisure or landuse key before the "events" val

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-09 17:18 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos : > I have created this proposal some time ago for a new tag called > leisure=events (originally landuse=events), which should describe areas > reserved for events in a city or in a place (more info at the proposal page > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

[Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Antônio Marcos
I have created this proposal some time ago for a new tag called leisure=events (originally landuse=events), which should describe areas reserved for events in a city or in a place (more info at the proposal page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Devents). Does anybody ha