Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-19 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Phil! Gold wrote: > * Anthony [2010-05-18 20:47 -0400]: > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Tyler Gunn wrote: > > > Almost all of these types of parking lots will have some kind of > > > notice that tow-away is enforced for unauthorized parking. So the > gene

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-19 Thread Phil! Gold
* Anthony [2010-05-18 20:47 -0400]: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Tyler Gunn wrote: > > Almost all of these types of parking lots will have some kind of > > notice that tow-away is enforced for unauthorized parking. So the general > > idea is you're free to park there, ONLY if you're visit

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Anthony wrote: > > Sounds like access=private, unless and until there's a more specific tag. > > Access=public?   No, the public has no right of access. > Access=permissive?  No, the owner does not give *general* permission to > access. > Access=destination?  No,

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Anthony
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Tyler Gunn wrote: > Almost all of these types of parking lots will have some kind of > notice that tow-away is enforced for unauthorized parking. So the general > idea is you're free to park there, ONLY if you're visiting the businesses > serviced by the lot. >

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Seventy 7 wrote: >> > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in >> > use for years. >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access says access=permissive means >> "The owner gives general permission for access." >> >> This doesn't seem

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/19 Greg Troxel : > I would call the first access=destination and the second access=permissive. yes, by thinking it over I also see some space for a restriction between permissive and private and destination is more "elegant" cause it uses an already introduced value for access. cheers, Ma

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Greg Troxel
"Seventy 7" writes: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access says access=permissive means >> "The owner gives general permission for access." >> >> This doesn't seem consistent with parking restricted to customers. Do >> you think this is a problem? I think, if access=* is to mean something

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Seventy 7
> > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in > > use for years. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access says access=permissive means > "The owner gives general permission for access." > > This doesn't seem consistent with parking restricted to customers. Do > y

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Ulf Lamping wrote: > > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in > use for years. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access says access=permissive means "The owner gives general permission for access." This doesn't seem consistent wit

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Tyler Gunn
> I was thinking access=destination although then you need to link the > parking lot to the destination, although you probably would for > access=customer as well since you might need to know where to spend > money, or window shop, to be considered a customer. I like this; access=destination defi

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/18 Ulf Lamping : > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in > use for years. +1 cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 17:23, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Use access=permissive instead of access=customer and you get what's in > use for years. I was thinking access=destination although then you need to link the parking lot to the destination, although you probably would for access=customer as well since you

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 18.05.2010 09:13, schrieb Roy Wallace: > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: >> >> I propose to add the following to the Parking wiki page, in the table >> of the "Tags" section, as follows: >> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parking) >> >> Column "Key": access >> Column "Va

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > > I propose to add the following to the Parking wiki page, in the table > of the "Tags" section, as follows: > (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parking) > > Column "Key": access > Column "Value": public/customer/private > Column "Element": [

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Tyler Gunn wrote: > > > From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parking: > > "The distinction between public parking lots, customer parking lots > > (such as at cinemas etc.), and private parking lots (such as for staff > > in a business park) is handled with acces

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-17 Thread Tyler Gunn
> From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parking: > "The distinction between public parking lots, customer parking lots > (such as at cinemas etc.), and private parking lots (such as for staff > in a business park) is handled with access=* tags." > To me, reading that directly that would seem to

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Tyler Gunn wrote: > > 1. What should the "access" for these parking lots be?  access=public > would seem to be appropriate, but in some regards that's not entirely > accurate.  Almost all of these types of parking lots will have some kind of > notice that tow-away

[Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-17 Thread Tyler Gunn
I was using the OSM maps for my city on my Garmin recently and when I listed the "parking" POIs I noticed a whole slew of parking showing up in there; mainly "unnamed".. It got me thinking why those are in there but then it dawned on me that in my area I've started adding in the parking lots and