Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Michael Kugelmann
on 28.01.2014 12:28, Janko Mihelić wrote: because it's not a common problem. ??? there are e.g. a lot of shopping centers out there... Best regards, Michael. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinf

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-01-28 Ronnie Soak > > Of course this comes with all the downsides of relations (maintainability > by newbies, pickup by renderers, routing, search..) > but still seems to be the most correct solution. > I think renderers, routers and other data consumers have shown themselves to use the mul

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
It seems to be the most correct solution and the "cost" of relations is not that relevant as it's an easy multipolygon and this kind of multipolygons are quite good supported by most editors (iD, josm) and software. Perhaps we get a proper area type in future, which should IMHO at least cover this

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Ronnie Soak
2014/1/28 Peter Wendorff > > one building (b1) and the outer space (s) are used by a kindergarten, > the second building (b2) and the outer space (s) are used by a primary > school. > > Our proposal for the tagging was: > 1) use a multipolygon with outer s and inner (b1) and tag it as primary > s

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Ronnie, recall the task: there is an area with a fence. inside that fence there are two buildings. one building (b1) and the outer space (s) are used by a kindergarten, the second building (b2) and the outer space (s) are used by a primary school. Our proposal for the tagging was: 1) use a mul

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Ronnie Soak
2014/1/28 Peter Wendorff > Hi Ronnia, > as the use case was an outer area shared by two amenities in different > building, it's a multipolygon with one outer and one inner member, and > that should be fairly common around the world, as it's the most simple > case for an osm multipolygon, right?

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Ronnia, as the use case was an outer area shared by two amenities in different building, it's a multipolygon with one outer and one inner member, and that should be fairly common around the world, as it's the most simple case for an osm multipolygon, right? regards Peter Am 28.01.2014 12:20,

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
It's not a common solution because it's not a common problem. I think it's better than site because it only uses the geometry of the area, and site takes into account the tags on the area. So if you put a landuse=* and barrier=fence, site says "this school consists of a fence and a landuse", and mu

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Ronnie Soak
2014/1/28 Janko Mihelić > I would make two multipolygon relations, not site, and put no tags on the > area. > > Could you explain why? A multipoligon relation with just one outer member is not common practice (at least not here in my region.) Regards, Chaos _

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Ronnie Soak
2014/1/28 Janko Mihelić > I would make two multipolygon relations, not site, and put no tags on the > area. > > Could you explain why? A multipoligon relation with just one outer member is not common practice (at least not here in my region.) Regards, Chaos _

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
I would make two multipolygon relations, not site, and put no tags on the area. 2014-01-28 Ronnie Soak > Hi, > > I'd like to get some opinions on a mapping/tagging problem I have here. > > Usually I would tag an amenity (inside a building) that is enclosed by an > area that is clearly part > of

[Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-27 Thread Ronnie Soak
Hi, I'd like to get some opinions on a mapping/tagging problem I have here. Usually I would tag an amenity (inside a building) that is enclosed by an area that is clearly part of the amenity (like playgrounds around a kindergarten, outdoor area of a botanical garden) *not* on the building (or eve