Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:21 PM, John Smith wrote: > You missed the important point I made, which was the bit about these Stop reminding me how much I dislike trying to discuss anything with you. We're in agreement. Nuff said. Steve ___ Tagging mailin

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 May 2010 00:32, Richard Finegold wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:barrier is > the template used for barriers in the Map Features wiki page. The > existence of this template arguably makes the tags consequential in > the entire scheme, as Map Features is self

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-14 Thread Richard Finegold
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 21:21, John Smith wrote: > On 14 May 2010 13:12, Steve Bennett wrote: >> Do we agree there is a basic goal of getting everyone to tag the same >> way? Perhaps the "propose-comment-vote-implemented" lifecycle is not >> right, but "just start using these values" is too weak.

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/14 John Smith : > You missed the important point I made, which was the bit about these > types of tags being incosequential in the entire scheme of things, > documenting them is more important than any vote when it won't have > any great effect on anything else. I (obviously) don't agree

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 May 2010 13:12, Steve Bennett wrote: > Do we agree there is a basic goal of getting everyone to tag the same > way? Perhaps the "propose-comment-vote-implemented" lifecycle is not > right, but "just start using these values" is too weak. How would you > know if anyone else was using some sim

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:58 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> right, but "just start using these values" is too weak. How would you >> know if anyone else was using some similar scheme but with different >> tags? > > > tagwatch? OSMdoc? Anyone regularly do this? I'm curious. I don't. > Still I

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/14 Steve Bennett : > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:05 AM, John Smith > wrote: >> The whole proposal seems pretty inconsequential, it's not like you are >> trying to make a well sued highway tagging scheme redundant. > Do we agree there is a basic goal of getting everyone to tag the same > way

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:05 AM, John Smith wrote: > The whole proposal seems pretty inconsequential, it's not like you are > trying to make a well sued highway tagging scheme redundant. Do we agree there is a basic goal of getting everyone to tag the same way? Perhaps the "propose-comment-vote-

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Hillsman
I've contributed a new barrier type (post_and_chain) to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types I have a photo that I've taken of one of these, but I haven't been able to figure out how to get it into the wiki. None of the other barrier photos I've seen in the

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/12 Craig Wallace : > On 12/05/2010 14:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types > > I don't think barrier=swing_gate is really needed. Its still a type of > gate, so it should just be tagged barrier=gate. Maybe plus something

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-12 Thread Craig Wallace
On 12/05/2010 14:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I set up a page (Draft) for additional barrier-values. If you want to > contribute I will be glad. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types I don't think barrier=swing_gate is really needed. Its still a type of ga

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-12 Thread John Smith
On 13 May 2010 00:27, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> The whole proposal seems pretty inconsequential, it's not like you are >> trying to make a well sued highway tagging scheme redundant. > > > ? This is a work-in-progress draft. I don't want to make anything redundant. Perhaps I was too succinct,

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/12 John Smith : >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types > > Why not just start using these values? I'm already using them > The whole proposal seems pretty inconsequential, it's not like you are > trying to make a well sued highway tagging scheme redundan

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 May 2010 23:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I set up a page (Draft) for additional barrier-values. If you want to > contribute I will be glad. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types Why not just start using these values? The whole proposal seems pretty

[Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
I set up a page (Draft) for additional barrier-values. If you want to contribute I will be glad. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.opens