On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:04 AM, marc marc
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> Le 19. 01. 18 à 23:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit :
> > 1. A lighthouse is a usually tall building or tower that has a lamp at
> > the top.
>
> has or had
>
Irrespective of technical definitions, I think you'll find that most people
think a li
Le 19. 01. 18 à 23:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit :
> 1. A lighthouse is a usually tall building or tower that has a lamp at
> the top.
has or had
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On 20 January 2018 at 08:18, Malcolm Herring wrote:
> I think from all the cases presented in this thread, we could perhaps
> frame two broader definitions:
>
> 1. A lighthouse is a building that has a lamp room at the top.
>
> 2. A beacon is a mast surmounted by a light.
>
Pretty good, but I'd
I think from all the cases presented in this thread, we could perhaps
frame two broader definitions:
1. A lighthouse is a building that has a lamp room at the top.
2. A beacon is a mast surmounted by a light.
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> On 19. Jan 2018, at 03:16, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>
> Don't be too sure about that. I thought that we could all agree that a
> lighthouse had some thing to do with light and houses, but it turns out
> that's not an universally held opinion.
rather than light and houses
On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 10:49 +, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> I think the border between lighthouses and beacons can only be fuzzy,
> we can never make a clear line. We can have a few pointers like
> "living quarters, big in size", but nothing set in stone. And that is
> ok because their purpose is the
I think the border between lighthouses and beacons can only be fuzzy, we
can never make a clear line. We can have a few pointers like "living
quarters, big in size", but nothing set in stone. And that is ok because
their purpose is the same, so some overlaping is not a problem. But I
believe we do
On 19/01/18 13:23, Steve Doerr wrote:
Here's the OED definition:
'A tower or other structure, with a powerful light or lights (originally
a beacon) at the top, erected at some important or dangerous point on or
near the sea-coast for the guidance of mariners.'
That's pretty much the majority
On 19/01/18 13:23, Steve Doerr wrote:
Depends what you mean by 'houses'.
I was hoping we meant in the sense of providing space for. As in this
structure houses a light.
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On 19/01/18 01:25, Malcolm Herring wrote:
On 18/01/2018 13:52, Janko Mihelić wrote:
It is important mappers doing a surveys can apply correct tags to
observed objects without any knowledge of their function.
Interesting tagging theory there. So I can only tag:
highway=road
because you nee
On 19/01/2018 02:16, Andrew Davidson wrote:
On 19/01/18 00:52, Janko Mihelić wrote:
Ok, the discussion at least came to an agreement that this:
https://imgur.com/a/U8SXn
is not a man_made=lighthouse.
Don't be too sure about that. I thought that we could all agree that a
lighthouse had some
On 19/01/18 00:52, Janko Mihelić wrote:
Ok, the discussion at least came to an agreement that this:
https://imgur.com/a/U8SXn
is not a man_made=lighthouse.
Don't be too sure about that. I thought that we could all agree that a
lighthouse had some thing to do with light and houses, but it tu
On 18/01/2018 15:27, Janko Mihelić wrote:
I'm in the process of making a new icon, and I can make a pull request
on the openstreetmap-carto soon.
That is good - maybe it will prevent mappers using "lighthouse" just so
that a symbol is placed on the map.
I have added some more examples of n
čet, 18. sij 2018. u 15:27 Malcolm Herring
napisao je:
> man_made=beacon *is* the appropriate tag for such structures. Tags in
> the "seamark" namespace relate only to the *navigational function* of an
> object, not the physical form. Many beacon objects have no navigational
> function & therefor
On 18/01/2018 13:52, Janko Mihelić wrote:
I looked at man_made=beacon. Taginfo says we have about 7 000 of those,
and the wiki shows something that resembles what we are talking about,
but not quite:
man_made=beacon *is* the appropriate tag for such structures. Tags in
the "seamark" namespa
Ok, the discussion at least came to an agreement that this:
https://imgur.com/a/U8SXn
is not a man_made=lighthouse. We have A LOT of those mapped as lighthouses
(I think the majority of that tag is on the wrong element). One reason is
rendering, and we have to start rendering something. The quest
2018-01-16 12:36 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Herring :
> On 16/01/2018 10:25, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>
>> OK. So a lighthouse has to have a rotating light then?
>>
>
> A lighthouse does not have any particular type of light, or any light at
> all, but it will have a lamp room at the top
>
I guess an open
On 16/01/2018 10:25, Andrew Davidson wrote:
OK. So a lighthouse has to have a rotating light then?
A lighthouse does not have any particular type of light, or any light at
all, but it will have a lamp room at the top
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On 16/01/18 21:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
can't see a lighthouse in your link.
It's the really big building with the beam of light coming out of
it--you can't miss it
This is a photo of the Rome
lighthouse (it is also called "lighthouse", and has a rotating light):
https://upload.w
2018-01-16 11:04 GMT+01:00 Andrew Davidson :
>
> Oh my. Hope someone has mapped the lighthouse in Las Vegas (
> http://vegasvacationbids.com/luxorhotelatnight.jpg).
can't see a lighthouse in your link. This is a photo of the Rome lighthouse
(it is also called "lighthouse", and has a rotating li
On 16/01/18 20:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
sure, for example here's a "famous" lighthouse in Rome, far from the sea:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/249332339
Oh my. Hope someone has mapped the lighthouse in Las Vegas
(http://vegasvacationbids.com/luxorhotelatnight.jpg).
On 16/01/18 19:34, Malcolm Herring wrote:
The main point that I was trying to make is that a simple pile or
lattice tower with a light on top should not be tagged as
man_made=lighthouse, but man_made=beacon.
Not always. A lighthouse is a structure housing a major marine
navigation light. What
2018-01-16 10:13 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Herring :
> On 16/01/2018 08:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>> probably with exceptions, e.g. this is a lighthouse from 1911 (i.e.
>> historic) with a lattice structure, generally considered a lighthouse:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adziogol_Lighthouse
>>
On 16/01/2018 08:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
probably with exceptions, e.g. this is a lighthouse from 1911 (i.e.
historic) with a lattice structure, generally considered a lighthouse:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adziogol_Lighthouse
I can see a house!
To be clear, the OP asked what the di
2018-01-16 9:34 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Herring :
> On 16/01/2018 00:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
>> In what way would you consider that these are not lighthouse's? Just
>> because they don't have accommodation?
>>
>
> Point taken. I was referring to the historical structures rather than any
> modern
On 16/01/2018 00:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
In what way would you consider that these are not lighthouse's? Just
because they don't have accommodation?
Point taken. I was referring to the historical structures rather than
any modern replacements.
The main point that I was trying to make i
On 16 January 2018 at 02:58, Malcolm Herring wrote:
>
>
> A lighthouse (man_made=lighthouse) is a tower with living quarters either
> within the tower, or a separate structure at or adjacent to the base. They
> are topped with a lamp room. The lamp may or may not be functional - many
> lighthouses
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:58:49 +
Malcolm Herring wrote:
> A lighthouse (man_made=lighthouse) is a tower with living quarters
> either within the tower, or a separate structure at or adjacent to
> the base.
Probably usually it is true but I would not consider it as absolutely
necessary.
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On 15/01/2018 14:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
can you please explain how to distinguish a beacon from a light house?
Historical beacons (for which the tag man_made=beacon is appropriate)
are structures that were for generic signalling purposes, not
necessarily maritime navigation. They can
2018-01-14 14:47 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić :
> A map with lighthouses was produced [1] that gained popularity because it
> was nicely rendered, but it showed how flawed OSM data was in this regard.
> Very often little beacons [2] are mapped as man_made=lighthouse, which is
> not right.
>
...
[2] - h
On 14/01/2018 13:47, Janko Mihelić wrote:
So a fuzzy rule can be created, you can't have a man_made=lighthouse tag
and seamark:xxx=yyy tags on the same object. That's instantly an error.
Seamark tags are used for instruments that help navigation, and
lighthouses are structures that can house th
Le 14. 01. 18 à 14:47, Janko Mihelić a écrit :
> a lighthouse can be an area with a seamark node at the place where
> the light is.
theoretically the difference seems correct to me.
but if someone just wants to map a lighthouse, he'll do it with a simple
node. you cannot require that anyone who
A map with lighthouses was produced [1] that gained popularity because it
was nicely rendered, but it showed how flawed OSM data was in this regard.
Very often little beacons [2] are mapped as man_made=lighthouse, which is
not right. Lighthouses are big structures that were built to have living
qua
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