Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-09-23 0:13 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > ... the German wiki says that service_times are for religous services! > no, it says they are also for religious services. It said it was for religious services in the short (template) definition, but which has been amended now to better comply with the

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-09-23 0:13 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > On 2018-09-22 23:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > maybe service_times could cover it, opening_hours are about something > different. > > > I agree they are different but the wiki infers that service_times are more > individual times (i.e. not periods) an

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread Warin
On 23/09/18 07:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 22. Sep 2018, at 17:53, Colin Smale wrote: Opening_hours should cover this, i.e. when can the public just turn up and speak to someone. But that is not going to be an emergency. maybe service_times could cover it, opening_

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 2018-09-22 23:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > >> On 22. Sep 2018, at 17:53, Colin Smale wrote: >> >> Opening_hours should cover this, i.e. when can the public just turn up and >> speak to someone. But that is not going to be an emergency. > > maybe service_times could

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Sep 2018, at 17:53, Colin Smale wrote: > > Opening_hours should cover this, i.e. when can the public just turn up and > speak to someone. But that is not going to be an emergency. maybe service_times could cover it, opening_hours are about something different. c

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On 22 September 2018 16:53:23 BST, Colin Smale wrote: >On 2018-09-22 17:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> The thing about a (non-) emergency police station could be that some >police stations close (at night, at noon, on weekends), so you would >not rely on them for emergencies. > >In an emerg

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 2018-09-22 17:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > The thing about a (non-) emergency police station could be that some police > stations close (at night, at noon, on weekends), so you would not rely on > them for emergencies. In an emergency you don't go to the {police,ambulance,fire} station,

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Sep 2018, at 16:46, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > > So the discussion shouldn't be in which case to use amenity or emergency > (how to differentiate them), > but how to establish a namespace which allows to express all of the > possible "mixtures". don’t have to decide f

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, I think this should be discussed here (centrally) : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Emergency_Cleanup#amenity.3D.2A_vs._emergency.3D.2A Generally I don't understand why the parameters can't be "mixed" (a police station is a police station, whether for emergency or not

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread dktue
Am 22.09.2018 um 00:29 schrieb Warin: On 21/09/18 23:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 21. Sep 2018, at 11:28, dktue wrote: but: it's not amenity=ambulance_station we're using at the moment. We're using emergency=ambulance_station -- so: How do we solve this? I’m not

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread Warin
On 21/09/18 23:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 21. Sep 2018, at 11:28, dktue wrote: but: it's not amenity=ambulance_station we're using at the moment. We're using emergency=ambulance_station -- so: How do we solve this? I’m not sure what an ambulance station is, but no

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 21. Sep 2018, at 11:28, dktue wrote: > > but: it's not amenity=ambulance_station we're using at the moment. We're > using emergency=ambulance_station -- so: How do we solve this? I’m not sure what an ambulance station is, but not all of the features I have in mind (a

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 21. Sep 2018, at 11:17, Anton Klim wrote: > > Are landuses supposed to be for larger areas? landuse is a property of the land more than an actual feature. It doesn’t matter if you cut a landuse in 2 parts, it has the same meaning. cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread John Willis
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 7:47 PM, John Willis wrote: > > Landuse primarily for *services* for the public: libraries, community halls, > fire stations, police stations, etc. I messed up: civic_saftey for all manner of Saftey services. Ambulances, fire, police, ranger, lifeguard, and other public

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread John Willis
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 6:29 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > > There is a parallel discussion going on about landuse=civil_administration > which might include smaller areas for individual government offices In my original landuse=Civic proposal, I included all Civic buildings. Later, I split off th

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread John Willis
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 6:17 PM, Anton Klim wrote: > > I’m not sure I understand why it would be a landuse instead of an amenity tag > on the area, or the other way round? Are landuses supposed to be for larger > areas? landuse areas can be as small as the land for housing plot, a factory buil

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread Colin Smale
There is a parallel discussion going on about landuse=civil_administration which might include smaller areas for individual government offices. Just wondering if an ambulance station (or fire station or police station for that matter) might be analogous. I believe that landuse tagging should be m

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread dktue
I personally think that     amenity=ambulance_station + building=ambulance_station would work well and fit in the schema we're using for     * schools     * hospitals     * fire stations but: it's not amenity=ambulance_station we're using at the moment. We're using emergency=ambulance_station

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread Anton Klim
I’m not sure I understand why it would be a landuse instead of an amenity tag on the area, or the other way round? Are landuses supposed to be for larger areas? > 21 сент. 2018 г., в 9:58, Colin Smale написал(а): > > What about landuse=ambulance_station on the area? What would the landuse be

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread Lionel Giard
It depends as some ambulance_station are located inside the hospital campus, some other are "external services" and are only a sort of "depot" like for taxi or buses. Personaly, I don't think landuse is a good tag for that. Why not an amenity tag like everything else ? (amenity=ambulance_station to

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread Colin Smale
What about landuse=ambulance_station on the area? What would the landuse be otherwise? Asking for a friend... On 2018-09-21 10:47, dktue wrote: > How about ambulance stations? > > Should we tag the area with emergency=ambulance_station and the building with > building=ambulance_station? > >

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-21 Thread dktue
How about ambulance stations? Should we tag the area with emergency=ambulance_station and the building with building=ambulance_station? dktue Am 21.09.2018 um 03:23 schrieb Mike H: I've only mapped one station like this so far, but the area is actually rendered on the map. https://www.openst