On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 07:38:53PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
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> Jul 4, 2023, 17:05 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
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> > On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 03:14:47PM +0100, Ian Dent wrote:
> >
> >> Previously it was tagged as ford=impassable but this isn't a valid value
> >> and
> >>
> >
On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 03:14:47PM +0100, Ian Dent wrote:
> Previously it was tagged as ford=impassable but this isn't a valid value and
On reflection, that doesn't seem such a bad tag. Why not just document
this on the wiki after discussion on the tagging list? Then it
should be a supported tag,
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:50:57PM +, Daniel Bégin wrote:
> I see your point. I may be mired with language issues (English is not my
> native language) but either I create a “business” tag and document it or I
> use office?
Well, I would be in favour of that. In this sort of context, I think
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 09:06:14PM +, Daniel Bégin wrote:
> Using the workplace of an electrician as an example, it was made clear that I
> should use craft=electrician instead of office=electrician. But what if this
> electrician sees its business get bigger (in a North American context)?
>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 11:45:58PM +0200, Dimitar wrote:
> Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and power is the better word
> for it.
That is just plain wrong. They have different dimensions.
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On Sun, Nov 06, 2022 at 08:15:05PM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> > to find current proposals nor to identify those with active voting.
> > Perhaps if I had kept a copy of the initial messages in this thread,
> > I would have found an URI.
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ca
On Sun, Nov 06, 2022 at 12:13:01PM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> You should bookmark this site to keep track of proposals:
>
> https://osm-proposals.push-f.com/
Thanks for that, but it doesn't work. Not on firefox with noscript
enabling the site.
It does seem to work on palemoon.
But
A very general comment:-
I very seldom consider voting on proposals, but I did want to look over
this one.
However, when I logged into the wiki, there seemed to be no easy way
to find current proposals nor to identify those with active voting.
Perhaps if I had kept a copy of the initial messages
On Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 03:01:57PM -0700, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> > But I was just trying to feed in that calling these things fountains is
> > not natural in everyday British English. Feel free to ignore.
> > The one term which is natural, drinking_fountain, I gather at least
> > one person wants to
On Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 09:52:46AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> sent from a phone
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> > On 8 Oct 2022, at 07:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Example Tom Bass Wall Fountain, Sydney, Australia 1963. Nicknamed "The
> > Urinal" for obvious reasons!
>
>
> according to a b
On Fri, Oct 07, 2022 at 01:07:56PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> so basically you call a "fountain" what we call in German a "Fontaine", or
> "Springbrunnen", and what could be more specifically called a "waterspout
> fountain" in English, i.e. a structure where water is blasted into the air,
On Fri, Oct 07, 2022 at 11:56:43AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> I would be interested to learn how you would call them, if "fountain" is
> not the correct term. Also I would like to add another example and ask
> whether that's a fountain for you:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevi_Fountai
On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:56:03PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> sent from a phone
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> > On 6 Oct 2022, at 11:41, ael via Tagging wrote:
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> > Definitely not a fountain.
> >
> > These all in British English.
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>
> these
On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 01:41:21AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> sent from a phone
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> > On 5 Oct 2022, at 15:26, Jass Kurn wrote:
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> > The tag amenity=fountain was created to map the entity/object known in
> > English as fountains, and is documented in the OSM wiki with several
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 10:46:39AM +, martianfreeloader wrote:
> There is a broad consensus that the language for OSM tags is British
> English. Using a non-BE word for a tag because it is used in Australia while
> a synonymous BE word exists, would be the same using a Xhosa, Portuguese or
> Ko
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 07:30:26AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> > "Hillock" is quite common in British English
>
>
> To describe a traffic control device?
No.
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> I'm uncomfortable with hillock/hillocky as a value.
"Hillock" is quite common in British English, not that I am comfortable
using it as a tag.
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On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 08:29:52AM -0800, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
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> Also, currently waterfalls (which can be considered very large and steep
> rapids!) are tagged waterway=waterfall on a node. Other waterway barriers
> are also tagged this way, e.g. waterway=dam and waterway=weir. Tagging
> wate
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 08:29:52AM -0800, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> Another argument against use of hazard=* for rapids is that the hazard key
> has been used almost always with highway=* features, not waterways.
Not in my part of the world. Why try to restrict the scope artificially?
Hazard in Br
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:22:44PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> I see this subject directly related to the "hazard" discussion in the sense
> that I suggested to clearly define the difference between signposted
> hazards/dangers/warnings and un-signed such situations that are observable
> on the
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 03:47:26PM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
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> > We have examples in the UK, even on major roads like the A346 between
> > Marlborough and Swindon. I don't think they are tagged.
I have deleted my several dashcam videos of this area, but one of the
signs, which I think
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 01:07:52PM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
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> >- Hidden dip
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> > Maybe. There is a barely used tag hazard=dip. Is this a permanent
> feature?
We have examples in the UK, even on major roads like the A346 between
Marlborough and Swindon. I don't think they ar
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 09:48:27PM +, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 19:56, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
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> Up until around ten years ago, a minor road went past the end of the
> runway at what passes for an airport. The planes could be so low on
> approach to the runway that the
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 11:08:55PM +, Paul Allen wrote:
> Which then goes back to the discussions we were having a while back about
> > tagging the "dangerousness" of tracks.
hazard=extreme surely?
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:45:13PM +0100, Andrea Mazzoleni wrote:
> The intention is to make future mappers consider the device precision when
> doing corrections.
My experience is that many mappers, especially armchair mappers, ignore
source tags. I often find that my fairly accurate gps mapping
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 04:01:09PM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:41 PM ael via Tagging
> wrote:
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> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:11:25AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> > > I am not opposed to including unsigned hazards
> >
>
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:11:25AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> I am not opposed to including unsigned hazards
There are a surprising number of abandoned open mineshafts in the far
West of England which are a hazard, if not an extreme hazard. Not all
of these are signed or fenced. You mig
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:09:40AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Am Di., 17. Nov. 2020 um 20:04 Uhr schrieb stevea >:
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> > I never said to NOT use source=* tags, they are correctly used on an
> > individual datum if / as it might diverge from a greater set of data that
> > otherwise has an
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 08:25:43PM -0800, stevea wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Seth Deegan wrote:
> > May I ask why not source=*? I know it's basically depreciated, but many
> > times I find myself wondering where past mappers got the info for a route
> > (this happened just today). I wo
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:33:15PM -0700, Michael Patrick wrote:
> > The obvious tag is
> > shop=trade
> > and
> > trade= ??? ...
>
> The most obvious tagging scheme for a world wide database like OSM would be
> to use the commercial classification system in effect in a particular
> jurisdicti
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 07:11:15PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
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> 8 lip 2019, 03:22 od bradha...@fastmail.com:
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> > wiki page
> Can you link image of track
> on rock/rocky surface where tagging
> it as grade1, grade2, grade3 would
> be misleading?
The existing grades seem to be UK-centric
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 05:42:56PM +0200, Tobias Zwick wrote:
> I always thought that there is no norm for standard sizes of windows, so
> every window is made to measure.
That's what several local companies do in my area of the UK. They cater
mainly for the trade, but also for DIY. Pretty well e
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 04:03:35PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> like in only selling, not fitting/mounting them? Not offering to replace the
> glass, etc.? Can you go there to buy a window, and take it away, or will you
> order a window or maybe the whole facade which will then be produ
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:00:19AM +0200, Allroads wrote:
> First, the consensus in OSM is
Sorry, but this thread is clear evidence that statement is false.
And existing mapping also contradicts it.
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 08:09:26PM +1000, Warin wrote:
> On 13/06/19 18:41, Tobias Zwick wrote:
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> I think a tag to say "lane:marking=no" could be better for that situation???
>
> lanes=* says the number of lanes, it does not say if they are marked or
> unmarked as demonstrated above.
+1
It h
On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 07:38:45AM +0200, s8evq wrote:
> Another attempt at summarizing the current situation:
>
> How should we included the direction?
>
> - Andy Townsend suggested "Explicit start and/or finish nodes?", but I'm
> afraid that's not enough to deduce the direction of complex hiki
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 08:19:16AM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 21:32, ael via Tagging
> wrote:
> > I invented the shop=trade after a suggestion on this list to consider
> > subtags.
>
>
> I was thinking about it & wondered abou
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 09:18:52AM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> wrote:
> >
> > I fear confusion if it uses exactly the same tag. But maybe it could work.
> Open for any thoughts or suggestions of a better word!
The only term that crossed my mind was specialisation but that
doesn't really fit
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 02:44:35PM +0100, Lionel Giard wrote:
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> To my understanding, at trade shop can't really be compared to a "craft"
> guy, as the trade shop only sell bulk material (there is no production
> there). :-)
That is indeed part of the meaning for trade=?? when used in conjunctio
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 04:57:12PM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > there is also craft (combination or not) for places where you find
> > specialized workers.
> >
>
> I've never been very happy with a lot of the craft= tags.
>
> To me "craft" suggests small-scale, probably handmade, so thing
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 01:57:35PM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> What is the difference between these shops?
>
> My expectation is that
>
> - shop=plumber is poorly tagged office of a plumber
> - shop=plumbing is unclear tagging of shop with primarily plumbing supplies
> - shop=plumbing_supp
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 06:33:46PM -0400, Jmapb wrote:
> On 3/10/2019 6:16 PM, Warin wrote:
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> >
> > amenity=prep_school .. umm amenity ... not something I like to use.
> > And prep_school tends to indicate preparation before going to school
> > rather than extra work on top of school.
> >
> I
On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 06:20:11PM +1100, Warin wrote:
> On 09/02/19 16:18, Mark Wagner wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 10:54:16 +1000
> > Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> >
> > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/653287455#map=15/38.0034/-87.6183
>
> In this case they have been mapped as a 'residentia
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 10:22:30PM +, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 22:09, Sergio Manzi wrote:
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> > If you think it is important to differentiate between lined vs. unlined
> > minor waterways (*and I'm not objecting to that*), I guess the best
> > option would be to use a specifi
On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 12:22:01AM -0800, Mark Wagner wrote:
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> My copy of the Oxford English Dictionary has about a page of
> definitions for "ditch" and "drain", and not a hint that either of them
> needs to be lined.
+1
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