On Fri, 24 May 2024, 15:14 Timothy Noname, wrote:
> There is a node 6397545656 marked as amenity telephone but it's a service
only for cyclists to contact the shuttle bus that takes them through the
Dartford crossing.
Sounds more like an intercom than a phone.
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 10:07, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The ‘dry swamp’ has no apparent way to tag it.
Are they also known by some other name?
I ask because I can find no papers about the phenomenon, by that name,
on Google Scholar
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I have a pond in my garden. I could, if I had a mind to and a decent
run up, jump over it. Not by any stretch of the imagination is it a
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no "moderation team" on Commons; deletion decisions there are
made by the community of contributors at large (just like edits in
OSM).
Your images sound as though they would be in scope. Did you try to upload them?
Do you have an example of an image which has been deleted from Commons?
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 23:56, Peter Elderson wrote:
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> Do we tag
> highway=motor ?
Is anybody proposing
footway=legs ?
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 21:44, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> >highway=trunk_hghway
> these are different because it would be a literal repetition.
Do we tag:
highway=trunk_road ?
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 20:46, Martin Koppenhoefer
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>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 21. Aug 2020, at 20:53, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> >
> > What type of footway is not a walkway?
> >
> > What type of walkway is not a footway?
> >
> >
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>
> > On 21. Aug 2020, at 15:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> >
> > That's a tautology (consider: footway=walkway)
> it is not a tautology, it’s a subtype
[We were discussing the suggestion
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 22:48, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > On 20. Aug 2020, at 23:18, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> Or maybe footway=canopy_walkway?
That's a tautology (consider: footway=walkway) and can be reduced to:
footway=canopy
or better:
footway=treetop
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> On 04.08.20 10:06, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> >> Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?
>
> > Which rules?
>
> Should I have written "was our voting process changed recently", or what
> exactly are yo
With all the usual "we are not Wikipedia" caveats, this page might
make useful reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Polling_is_not_a_substitute_for_discussion
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> Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?
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:=foo
If this would cloud the use of "destination", we could use, say:
inscription:337.5:=foo
What do folk think?
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for you, in one process, and very well.
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Would we want to introduce various extra tags for each?
That invokes a slippery-slope fallacy; but consider:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mapillary
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:flickr
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to Commons, you can also link to it from
Wikidata.
(Although it can be used as I describe above, its primary purpose is
to find, for a given location, nearby Wikidata items that lack
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 20:46, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
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> On 2/25/20 4:05 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > We should not, of course, remove either the full URLs nor the whole
> > PoIs, since that would open us up to attack from bad actors
> > masquerading as the companies w
/hotels/bhxsadi-doubletree-stratford-upon-avon/...)
From the page headers (extraneous parameters snipped, white space added):
https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/bhxsadi-doubletree-stratford-upon-avon/";
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 12:20, Andy Mabbett wrote:
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> I hope to find consensus for how to tag artworks with multiple parts,
> as a relation.
> We could use relation_type:set (which I used for the Moonstones) or
> define a new relation_type:artwork
To further complicate matters I
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 12:41, marc marc wrote:
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> Le 06.02.20 à 13:20, Andy Mabbett a écrit :
> > We could use relation_type:set
>
> why not using relation type=site that already exist ?
Because they are not a "site".
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Set of statues in Porto:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2996821310
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:People_looking_the_sky_%28Faro_district%29.JPG
We could use relation_type:set (which I used for the Moonstones) or
define a new relation_type:artwork
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 15:58, Robert Skedgell wrote:
> I've just been to La Fauxmagerie in Shoreditch, London, a vegan "cheese"
> shop.
shop=hipster
produce=bogus
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bout that street. You can't define those parts in
>>> Wikidata.
>> Use a relation.
> Introducing pointless relation to satisfy unneded rule is pointless.
Indeed it would be.
In this case, though the relation would not be "pointless".
296167.
Can we agree that these should all be removed, or replaced with
suitable sub-tag, ASAP? the sub-tag might be, say:
historic:wikidata=Q2961670
> I would give all these roads part:wikidata=Q29616
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https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q26703203 )
But perhaps this is better done through the templated link to
Q26703203 on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org and/ or Q26703203
/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dstolperstein
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etlands, which happen to have a lake
> within them. Map
> the wetlands and add the wikidata tag to it.
..and create a Wikidata item for (just) the lake.
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ecause the
> grouping itself was flagged as being of listed buildings.
Do you mean categories on Wikimedia Commons? That's not Wikidata.
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> tag?
> You have examples like tagging all ways that are a part of a street with
> the wikidata item about that street. You can't define those parts in
> Wikidata.
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> staff,...
there are at least two possibilities:
phone=
phone:emergency=
phone:staff=
and:
phone=
emergency:phone=
staff:phone=
Neither of which requires "contact:"
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nglish month names.
> opening_hours to keep things simple and to prevent a problem in one affecting
> all of them.
If only there was some sort of ISO standard for representing dates...
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practice, and can not dictate it?
> You did notice she has linked to a proposal page, which is a space in the
> wiki explicitly set up to discuss new ideas?
Yes, I did. My point stands.
Or did we change things, and agree that the Wiki is now the de jure
record of authority?
On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 17:26, marc marc wrote:
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> Le 08.05.19 à 18:00, Andy Mabbett a écrit :
> > On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 14:50,
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I
> >
> > Who is "I"? is "wiki_openstreetmap_org.5.kuru" really your name?
the wiki is supposed to document current best
practice, and can not dictate it?
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On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 20:47, François Lacombe
wrote:
> The main difference with rivers going through cities is it's often the
> original natural course.
The River Tame, in North Birmingham and in the urban areas north of
the city, has several sections, some concrete-sided and some looking
entir
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 13:46, Eugene Podshivalov wrote:
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> сб, 16 февр. 2019 г. в 16:30, Andy Mabbett :
>> Why would we tag either, when software can calculate them?
> Calculated value may differ from the official one and is error-prone
I would suggest that values entered by hu
m.
Why would we tag either, when software can calculate them?
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start_date= [date]
* operator= [...]
and:
* wikidata= [QID]
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The wiki tells us to use "leisure=slipway":
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dslipway
but many slipways are primarily for search-and-rescue, fishing craft,
small ferries or other non-leisure uses.
What would be a better tag?
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:27, Rory McCann wrote:
> "shop=books lgbtq=yes" is a LGBTQ book shop,
Wouldn't that be "shop=books books=lgbtq"?
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l or foreign prepared foods".
But note also that the same page says "'Deli' also denotes a small
convenience store or milk bar in [Australia]" and "In the United
States, a delicatessen (or deli) is often a combined grocery store and
This is part of a, international chain. What are other branches tagged as?
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"On 26 August 2018 at 14:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> On 26. Aug 2018, at 13:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> Please tag any Stolperstein that you add to OSM with the equivalent
>> Wikidata "QID".
> Does Wikidata have an item for every Stolperstein
On 26 August 2018 at 12:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> There is also a project to log Stolpersteine in Wikidata:
>
>https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Stolpersteine
P.S. Of course, this also involves adding a photograph of each
individual Stolperstein to Wikimedia Commo
at you add to OSM with the equivalent
Wikidata "QID". If the new database has PIDs for each Stolperstein, I
will propose a new Wikidata property to store those IDs also, so we
will be able to triangulate between the three databases.
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> In Nederland the Stolpersteine project has caught on and there is a database.
Is that online, please?
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> hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking more
> about areas that were known crime spots/had associated illegal activities
> people may want to avoid
What, like tax avoidance and insider dealing?
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On 10 August 2018 at 23:39, Paul Allen wrote:
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I wondered if anyone would remember that question!
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Xstraat", so the sign says Rue X-straat.
> That's true and I always wondered why the community didn't take that
> approach. Map what is on the sign.
Signs can use different fonts, text size, colours and "line breaks" to
indicate meaning which cannot be captured
:xx field.
I understand that already.
> p.s. It is not the first time this question pops up.
That can be a sign that something is amiss.
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Tagg
e=Rue du Marché aux Poulets - Kiekenmarkt (Belgium, Spain)
* spaces: name=干諾道中 Connaught Road Central (Hong Kong)
* spaced slashes: name=Le Rhin / Rhein (shared boundaries)
Greater consistency would surely be advantageous?
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On 28 June 2018 at 11:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> teaches:esperanto=yes
Do we really want to replicate schools' and colleges' prospectuses?
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circular route to arrive
back at its starting point is NOT called a "round trip", whether or
not it performs that circuit just once, or multiple times.
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On Tue, 15 May 2018 02:36 Paul Allen, wrote:
> at least one other language makes a similar
> distinction to English in that stations are for people, not goods.
The U.K. has (or had) many places named 'Goods Station'.
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it ranks results
> based on wiki tags. So if you are going through these it would be a great
> time to fix these as well.
It would, but it would be even better to substitute, or add,
wikidata:brand= at the same time.
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cooperative, charity, etc); why
would we need one in this case?
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umb 3
> rubber_grass 3
Whatever the correct value turns out to be, there's an alarming level
of redundancy there.
"Rubber" and "recycled_rubber" should both be "rubber".
"rubbercrumb" and "rubber_crumb" are clearly the same concept.
I wond
On 12 March 2018 at 12:53, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> On 12.03.2018 13:03, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground
>> items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like
>> material.
>>
>> I've us
Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground
items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like
material.
I've used surface=rubber, for now, but that's not really accurate.
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https://billdargue.jimdo.com/placenames-gazetteer-a-to-y/places-h/holloway-head/
which is an historic street name, not a neologism.
That said, I have no view regarding the use of the term in tagging.
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On 8 January 2018 at 23:39, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> Witness municipalities asking us to remove their
> streets from the map
When & where did that happen?
[off-topic for the tagging list, so please feel free to point me to an
alternative venue]
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On 29 November 2017 at 13:05, marc marc wrote:
> Le 29. 11. 17 à 12:06, Andy Mabbett a écrit :
>> On 29 November 2017 at 00:40, marc marc wrote:
>>
>>> my query shows you that you can get the same without wikidata.
>>
>> Please demonstrate how you wo
in 1853, not the
architect John Smith born in London in 1867, nor the architect John
Smith born in Birmingham in 1853.
Without using Wikidata.
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from the outside would be much more productive
Great! Let us know when you have a working solution, consensus to
implement it, and tools that work with it.
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rvices which Wikidata federates with include:
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https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_federation_input/Archive#LOSM
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On 28 November 2017 at 14:36, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> I would need to understand the use cases and
> what value they add to the map
P.S.
The key here is to understand the concept of "linked data" [1], or
rather "linked, open data" [2]. In other words, making inline data
more understandable by lin
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On 28 November 2017 at 13:41, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 28.11.2017 14:13, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>> the established rule not to have external IDs in the
>>> OSM database
>>
>> What "established rule" would that be? Established by whom; when and how?
On 28 November 2017 at 12:18, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> the established rule not to have external IDs in the
> OSM database
What "established rule" would that be? Established by whom; when and how?
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On 2 November 2017 at 18:15, Éric Gillet wrote:
> 2017-11-02 15:50 GMT+01:00 Nelson A. de Oliveira :
>>
>> Is there a way to represent emergency phones (emergency=phone) which
>> have a blinking/flashing light (so they can be identified at night,
>> with fog, etc), please?
> Maybe you can reuse t
We have Tag:building=houseboat:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dhouseboat
How do we tag similar structures, that are not residential (e.g. used
as restaurants or nightclubs)?
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Should we change the tag to:
cypher=
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On 15 June 2017 at 21:02, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> This service is still looking for a proper home. If you have an extra 700GB
> of space on a server, please PM.
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years working at a railway
museum in England, I would say brake vans are definitely "rolling
stock" (as indeed is anything on wheels that moves on railway rails).
Both en.Wikipedia's categories (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_van ) and Wikidata agree with
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ther types.
Maybe historic=railway_wagon ?
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On 1 May 2017 at 13:18, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> On 1. May 2017, at 12:37, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>
>> Do not falsely conflate "complex" with "worse". You original complaint
>> was, in effect, that there was a lack of complexity, now you complain
>&
On 30 April 2017 at 09:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> On 30. Apr 2017, at 07:09, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> No. The arguments made by Martin against linking to Wikipedia (which
>> are themselves weak) do not stand up at all for Wikidata
> actually in wikidata thi
is is apparently a case where OSM (or, at ealst, the OSM wiki) is in error.
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tagged with the relevant Wikidata ID.
> I still think that the mapping of time zones as geometries
> should be discouraged in OSM.
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Once they were. My local one is now, formally, known as "Great Barr
Delivery Office". You can search for them by nearby postcodes,
http://www.royalmail.com/delivery-and-collection-office-finder
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how many countries are currently tagged with
their Wikidata ID?
If not many, would people like a bot to add such tags?
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> "Cadastre" is not an english word
Really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadastre
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cadastre
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> the card in order to give it back to the owner (sending it via mail, for
> example).
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On 25 March 2016 at 12:19, Alexander Matheisen
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> Am Freitag, den 25.03.2016, 11:26 + schrieb Andy Mabbett:
>> On 20 March 2016 at 00:12, Alexander Matheisen
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>> > If you have a look at the highway=* tagging: This scheme is
>> > subje
to another country from Birmingham
International railway station.
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ry intransparent.
Please explain what measure you are using, that is *more transparent*.
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Tagging is highway=primary vs.
> secondary, secondary vs. tertiary, tertiary vs. unclassified is often a
> question of importance, not only width, paving and lane count.
Tagging highways as "primary" or "secondary" is often a matter of
verifiable legal designation.
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;m not convinced we
should), we should list them all - and with a generic property.
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On 19 March 2016 at 17:47, John Willis wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 9:18 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
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>> It's nowhere near as ridiculous as trying to render them according to
>> some arbitrary and subjective "importance" (Importance to whom?
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> All
ridiculous as trying to render them according to
some arbitrary and subjective "importance" (Importance to whom? The
people who live near them? Tourists? Mountaineers? Ornithologists?
Aviators? Geologists? Climatologists? Oil prospectors?).
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Today:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/sloped_kerb&diff=1279361&oldid=1215962
On 7 March 2016 at 19:48, Simon Poole wrote:
> Recently I believe in this case was 2010 .
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> Simon
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> Am 07.03.2016 um 19:39 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
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allows the use of:
kerb=dropped
alone.
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