Re: [Tagging] Named walking tracks following road

2018-11-27 Thread OSMDoudou
I would suggest to make a consistent edit of the area, not just solve one isolated MapRoulette challenge. Other segments of the walks have the three names: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/435947565 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/435947561 etc.___ T

Re: [Tagging] Named walking tracks following road

2018-11-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 16:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > This comes up with a dam with no tracks in the USA. > Better off with https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/435947564 Thanks - don't know how that happened? > Easiest? > Delete the walking track nameS from the road. > > The walki

Re: [Tagging] Named walking tracks following road

2018-11-27 Thread Warin
On 28/11/18 17:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Just working on some errors identified by Map Roulette as having invalid characters in street names. One that's come up is https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=rocky%20creek%20dam#map=18/-28.63593/153.34517, where named walking tracks follow

[Tagging] Named walking tracks following road

2018-11-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just working on some errors identified by Map Roulette as having invalid characters in street names. One that's come up is https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=rocky%20creek%20dam#map=18/-28.63593/153.34517, where named walking tracks follow a service road across a dam wall. The original ma

Re: [Tagging] My proposal for disputed country borders

2018-11-27 Thread Johnparis
Thanks for this, Rory. I'll add it as a comment to the active proposal ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mapping_disputed_boundaries ). I don't think the notion of "according_to" is viable unless it is restricted to the two disputing parties. (Three-way disputes can be simpli

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-27 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 28.11.2018 o 03:49, Joseph Eisenberg pisze: > Re “Have we found the covert reason why carto still doesn't render > [Protected areas]” > > No need for conspiracy theories. We simply need more contributors at > openstreetmap-carto who are willing to volunteer their time to fix > these issues.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-27 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Re “Have we found the covert reason why carto still doesn't render [Protected areas]” No need for conspiracy theories. We simply need more contributors at openstreetmap-carto who are willing to volunteer their time to fix these issues. But we are about to start rendering the equivalent protected_

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-27 Thread Doug Hembry
On 11/26/18 17:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> and I fail to see how much more >> difficult it is to tag "boundary=protected area" and "protect_class=24" > > Because "24" is a completely random code, unlike boundary=aboriginal_lands And on 11/26/18 17:00, Frederick Ramm wrote: >We

Re: [Tagging] My proposal for disputed country borders

2018-11-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/11/2018 23:01, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: This proposal has several problems: 1) Too many new relations, up to 180 per border or whatever the number of independent states has reached. It's a concern (I've made similar points about languages in the past) but in this case I don't think that

Re: [Tagging] My proposal for disputed country borders

2018-11-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Rory, thanks for tackling this. You might want to re-upload your proposal to the wiki, as it does appear to be borked at the moment. I think we should not store undisputed territories in the same relation as the disputed ones. Lets just store the disputed regions as individual relations, e.g. Kur

Re: [Tagging] My proposal for disputed country borders

2018-11-27 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
This proposal has several problems: 1) Too many new relations, up to 180 per border or whatever the number of independent states has reached. 2) OSM is for “real, current” data - Claimed borders are not real. - Many old claims have never been officially surrendered 3) “Don’t map your local legisl

[Tagging] My proposal for disputed country borders

2018-11-27 Thread Rory McCann
This is my suggestion for how to map disputed/claimed borders. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ClaimedBorders (but I appear to have broken the wiki). This proposal is simple. Map the claimed border of a country according to another country as another regular {{Tag|type|bo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-27 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 11/26/18 6:35 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: I can't speak for other countries so I'll limit my comments to the US. As Kevin Kenny commented, tribes in the US are recognized as domestic dependent nations.  But from there it gets messy. They can set their own sales tax separate from the state and h

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 07:10 Martin Koppenhoefer > > sent from a phone > > > On 27. Nov 2018, at 03:27, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > I'm generally a fan of the admin_level option. protected_area is OKisn, > but the protect_class=* tag definitely hits me as an oddity given other > tagging. boundar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Nov 2018, at 03:27, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I'm generally a fan of the admin_level option. protected_area is OKisn, but > the protect_class=* tag definitely hits me as an oddity given other tagging. > boundary=aboriginal_lands could be a supplemental tag to admin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mapping disputed boundaries

2018-11-27 Thread Johnparis
Thank you for that reference, Marc. The blog post you cite deals with the policy and how it is enforced, not with the question of physical control. The blog acknowledges that Russia has physical control. Let me be clear: this proposal makes NO CHANGES in the existing policy regarding de facto bor

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mapping disputed boundaries

2018-11-27 Thread Marc Gemis
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:06 AM Johnparis wrote:\ > The question of "physical control" is, I believe, not at issue. The fact that > Russia exercises physical control is precisely what Ukraine objects to. So > both sides agree that Russia has physical control of Ukraine. But if there > were a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mapping disputed boundaries

2018-11-27 Thread Johnparis
>From the proposal: *The de facto border is the one that conforms to the Policy's statement: "Currently, we record one set that, in OpenStreetMap contributor opinion, is most widely internationally recognised and best meets realities on the ground, generally meaning physical control."* The questio

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mapping disputed boundaries

2018-11-27 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hi all, a much simpler approach is to look into the respective constitution. The Ukrainian constitution defines the state's territory in article 133. Other countries, like Germany do so as well, and Ireland does or has done so. France does not define its terriotry in the constitution, and the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mapping disputed boundaries

2018-11-27 Thread Marc Gemis
I'm trying to understand how the current situation in Crimea has to be mapped with your proposal. The Ukranian community wants the old border (before the Russian invasion) to be the de-facto border. I assume that the Russian community wants the border elsewhere, so Crimea becomes Russian territory.