Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:35 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > > Oxford dictionary describes kiln as > "a furnace or oven for burning, baking, or drying, esp. one for calcining > lime or firing pottery." We should really separate things used to prepare foods and things used to make pottery, regardle

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

On 2015-10-11 08:25, Mateusz Konieczny wrote : > Castle as in "a type of fortified structure built in Europe and the > Middle East during the Middle Ages by nobility". > > Unfortunately obvious historic=castle fails - as it is defined and > used as "(often fortified) buildings from medieval and mod

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

Here is another example[1], and its website[2]. This one is in Colorado US. historic=castle doesn't seem appropriate as it was built in relatively recent times. [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/71070599 [2] http://www.bishopcastle.org/ On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Jaume Figueras i Jové

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

We are not talking about stop to differentiate power lines but to use different tags to do so. By landscape : importance=* may support the difference between "big" and "small" power lines. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Importance power=line + importance=local power=line + im

[Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

Hi, I've found a 'postindustrial' castle tagged [1] and I don't know how can it be correctly tagged. With 'postindustrial' I mean a castle build by one person during the last 40-50 years as its own personal project with no other means that its own personal I don't know why someone builds

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

Indeed, mappers aren't supposed to know everything, neither the recommended modelling nor the technical details of power lines, but the landscape criteria seems simple enough to allow them to understand it if they are informed about it; besides, even if they are not aware of it, experienced mapp

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

Do you mean that the landscape impact criteria is already the one used to distinguish minor_line and line? Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:26:26 +0200 From: dieterdre...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line I agree that additional details like

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-14 11:47 GMT+02:00 John Willis : > The castle is an theme park attraction, like all the other things there. convinced, those are likely neither historic=castle nor buiding=castle. I think the hearst castle could have both tags, but have not been there either. Better also add a start_da

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 15:35 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer : > While the wikipedia article focuses on the industrial use, that does not > exclude the meaning in food preparation, in particular in a low-tech > environment. > admittedly there are a lot hits for "bread kiln" in my searchengine. The problem is, the osm

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2015-10-14 14:06: Am 14.10.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Tom Pfeifer: man_made=kiln https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln a kiln is an oven, but not every oven is a kiln. The one above is for baking bread, it's not a kiln. Oxford dictionary describes k

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

I confirm that kilns are not ovens for any kind of food. So let's concentrate on food ovens. I mentioned the subject for two reasons: 1) I expect a considerable overlap between the two oven categories. In the western world we are used to the idea that food ovens are normally inside restaurants, but

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> Am 14.10.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Tom Pfeifer > >: >> >> man_made=kiln >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln >> > >

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

sent from a phone > Am 14.10.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Tom Pfeifer : > > man_made=kiln > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln a kiln is an oven, but not every oven is a kiln. The one above is for baking bread, it's not a kiln. cheers Martin _

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

sent from a phone > Am 14.10.2015 um 13:06 schrieb Volker Schmidt : > > I suppose they are separate category, but should be mentioned in the proposal. I think oven=wood_fired would fit well, but I'd rather see this tag as an attribute, so maybe an additional tag should go there, like man_mad

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

Volker Schmidt wrote on 2015-10-14 13:06: In this context: What about stand-alone ovens, like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/375213024/ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brotofen_in_Gr%C3%BCnreuth.jpg man_made=kiln https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln I s

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

In this context: What about stand-alone ovens, like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/375213024/ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brotofen_in_Gr%C3%BCnreuth.jpg I have found very few of these actually on OSM (unless I used the wrong tag), and no wiki page, but there should be many

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

If you ever see the disney castles - espcially the original in California - they may be steel a reinforced structure, but it is an office building/hotel building styled as a castle. The outside is fiberglass/reinforced decorations to look like a castle. It is also very foreshortened for viewing

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

Please remember that this is OpenStreetMap and most mappers are not experts on the features they are mapping. It is my personal appeal to all to allow a tagging system that allows general mappers to put a specific feature on the map using overall basic tags and then the experts can come in and “

[Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

I'm writing to you on behalf of user Giardia to you, asking about comments for a new tag proposal to tag the kind of an oven (e.g. for a pizza place or a bakery, maybe also in different context). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:oven Cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-13 23:57 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > So .. what is the difference between a building and a castle? > > A castle has a building inside a defensive wall, usually the building is > separate from the wall to enhance the building security. > IMHO a castle is a kind of building

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-13 23:27 GMT+02:00 John Willis : > Does this include plastic disney castles? > > Those are definitely psuedo-castles. > are they "more pseudo" than Neuschwanstein (the "original")? Why? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle This WP article suggests the Cinderella Castle i

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-13 22:48 GMT+02:00 François Lacombe : > As consumers may not be able to make the right distinction between minor > or major lines, I assume using power=line only, in continental France and > always in combination with voltage=* and operator=*. > > Thus both users and mappers only have info

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

Well, I would say: mainly on poles = minor_line, and mainly on towers = line; this way, the difference is easy to see for mappers, even on Bing imagery, and, as poles, AFAIK, are always smaller that towers, that would properly model the landscape impact these power lines have. Besides, I know we