Re: [Tagging] bridge movable vs swing vs swinging

2014-08-08 Thread Christopher Hoess
Volker, There was a rather inconspicuous sentence at the end of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge linking to the additional "bridge:..." keys. I've reordered the introductory material in that page somewhat to make it more clear that these additional options exist for adding detail abou

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread k4r573n
concluded there are areas where behavior guidelines (see links below) introduce paths not for general public but for climbers. (Tom thanks for the links) therefore we definitely should use: access=destination This single tag might be sufficient. And an other tag would just simplify rendering... A

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Tobias Knerr wrote, on 2014-08-08 12:55:> > access=destination makes sense. That second tag isn't established, > though, nor is the concept of "explaining the details" through a > destination=* subtag. At least it helps the fellow mapper why the access was tagged so, and is easier than a note= A

Re: [Tagging] bridge movable vs swing vs swinging

2014-08-08 Thread Volker Schmidt
agreed That means producing a revised bridge wiki page that combines all info. Who does the work? :-( On 8 August 2014 13:07, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 08.08.2014 11:35, Richard Z. wrote: > > My idea was > > * abandon bridge=swing in favor of bridge=movable which could provide > > subtyping

Re: [Tagging] bridge movable vs swing vs swinging

2014-08-08 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 08.08.2014 11:35, Richard Z. wrote: > My idea was > * abandon bridge=swing in favor of bridge=movable which could provide > subtyping if someone really needed it. We already have an approved proposal that provides this subtyping: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bridge_t

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 08/ago/2014 um 12:47 schrieb k4r573n : > > In my opinion these paths shouldn't be used by default and we need a tag > to ensure routers and renders have a possibility to do so. > > access=destination > destination=climbing > > seams to be the best possibility If there are legally bindin

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 08.08.2014 12:07, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >>>access=destination >>>destination=climbing > > Just to reinforce the opinion, "access=destination" forbids through > traffic, > in this case general hikers taking a short cut. This is what we want, > and using > an established tag for this purpose

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread k4r573n
On 08.08.2014 11:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Am 08/ago/2014 um 11:31 schrieb Dan S : >> >> I'd vote for the first one (destination). I'm not keen on the third >> one since climbing=* would need to become widely recognised as an >> access tag, which doesn't feel very scaleable. > I agree mostl

Re: [Tagging] bridge movable vs swing vs swinging

2014-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 08/ago/2014 um 11:35 schrieb "Richard Z." : > > My idea was > * abandon bridge=swing in favor of bridge=movable which could provide > subtyping if someone really needed it. > * introduce bridge=suspension bridge=simple_suspension I suggest to also look at previous discussions on this t

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 08/ago/2014 um 11:31 schrieb Dan S : > > I'd vote for the first one (destination). I'm not keen on the third > one since climbing=* would need to become widely recognised as an > access tag, which doesn't feel very scaleable. I agree mostly, from these suggestions it seems the best altern

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Dan S wrote, on 2014-08-08 11:31: 2014-08-08 10:21 GMT+01:00 k4r573n : Tom - yes you understood me right :) Thanks There is no one who check whether your a climber or not or want to have a fee - but these path are not aimed to be used by the general public. I admit that access=customers doe

Re: [Tagging] bridge movable vs swing vs swinging

2014-08-08 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 05:58:01PM +0200, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Good old Wiipedia helps: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge#Types_of_bridges > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_bridge > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_bridge wikipedia is clear on that but if you look at "swing

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread Dan S
2014-08-08 10:21 GMT+01:00 k4r573n : > On 07.08.2014 12:05, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >> If I understand Karsten correctly, the limitation is not about payment, >> it is to limit the number of people using this path. This would be >> typical for climbing crags in >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cons

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 Thread k4r573n
On 07.08.2014 12:05, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > If I understand Karsten correctly, the limitation is not about payment, > it is to limit the number of people using this path. This would be > typical for climbing crags in > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conservation > areas. > > A typical example is