Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread robert
What ever solution we are going to use. By rendering all countries, the relative picture should be the same. Prominence 4 in America is a city with a lot more inhabitants then a prominace 4 in Belgium. Knowledge of the country should decide the prominence. To have a clear discussion, ever

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Scuba diving (Shop or spot)

2011-01-18 Thread robert
Citeren John Smith : On 19 January 2011 04:27, Robert Elsenaar wrote: (scuba_diving is better then Dive_centre because also dive spots can have filling facilities without having a divecentre nearby.) My point before is that scuba is only one type of diving, you can also snorkle or use a reb

Re: [Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread Stephen Hope
On 19 January 2011 16:50, wrote: > Google, however, has put the coastline around the outside of the marshes and > the result looks nothing like a good representation of what's actually > there: > http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=abu+dhabi&safe=on&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Abu+Dhabi+-+United+Arab+Emirates&

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote: > Or take the Sucre, the capitol of Bolivien (193k people) and compare to > Santa Cruz de la Sierra (biggest city of the country) with 1.1m people. Funnily enough many people in Bolivia count La Paz (about 2m) as the Capital, the president i

Re: [Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread charlie
Stephen Hope (slh...@gmail.com) wrote: I don't agree. This is a good general rule, but the general convention on most maps is that the coast goes on the SEA side of things like coastal swamps and mangroves. As a rule of thumb, if it has plants growing though the water, it's land, not sea, even

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:27 PM, John Smith wrote: > The problem here is subject v objective tagging, in terms of airports > this can be objective stated based on international flights a day and > the same with cities, if you want to indicate population tag > population, take for example some regi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 January 2011 14:17, Steve Bennett wrote: > Remember how we recently had a discussion about how to tag airports? > Exactly the same problem. There will be many other examples, like > schools, parks, mountains etc etc. If we want to produce good > cartography, we need to be tagging for it. Th

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:11 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > There is a proposal in the wiki by user: MojaveNC which doesn't look bad: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Metropolis The problem of prominence affects a lot more than just cities. Adding a single tag to handle a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 January 2011 05:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/1/18 Robert Elsenaar : >> Great idea to reactivate is again. New times, new ideas. >> >> I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they do not >> have enough inhibitans to be granted as one. > > > -1, what is the poi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Scuba diving (Shop or spot)

2011-01-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 January 2011 04:27, Robert Elsenaar wrote: > (scuba_diving is better then Dive_centre because also dive spots can have > filling facilities without having a divecentre nearby.) My point before is that scuba is only one type of diving, you can also snorkle or use a rebreather neither of whic

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, wrote: > You then start getting debates such as whether Dallas and Fort Worth should > count as two separate metropolitan areas, or as one metropolitan area that > includes both cities. Do what the census bureau does: if the urbanized areas touch, it's a single

Re: [Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 18/01/2011 17:09, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: It seems to me that you would need to map a series of depth contours, not simply mark channels as navigable or not navigable, as different craft will require different depths of water. Also, this information will need to be updated frequently, a

Re: [Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 18/01/2011 22:29, Stephen Hope wrote: I don't agree. This is a good general rule, but the general convention on most maps is that the coast goes on the SEA side of things like coastal swamps and mangroves. As a rule of thumb, if it has plants growing though the water, it's land, not sea, eve

Re: [Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread Stephen Hope
I don't agree. This is a good general rule, but the general convention on most maps is that the coast goes on the SEA side of things like coastal swamps and mangroves. As a rule of thumb, if it has plants growing though the water, it's land, not sea, even if it happens to be wet. Doing this your

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread john
You then start getting debates such as whether Dallas and Fort Worth should count as two separate metropolitan areas, or as one metropolitan area that includes both cities. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis >From :mailto:nerou...@gmail.com Date :Tue Jan 18

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote: > even the US with Washington DC (500k) vs New York (>8m) are a good example. Though this is an example where using metropolitan area figures would be better (NYC is still out in front but DC is pretty respectable). _

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
Additionally there are a lot of Capitals not being big cities in the world: According to Wikipedia (de) the capital of Belize, Belmopan has a population of 8.130 people (2000), while Belize City as the biggest city of Belize has ca 50.000. Or take the Sucre, the capitol of Bolivien (193k peop

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 18/01/2011 20:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer a écrit : 2011/1/18 Robert Elsenaar: Great idea to reactivate is again. New times, new ideas. I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they do not have enough inhibitans to be granted as one. -1, what is the point of this? The ke

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/18 Robert Elsenaar : > Great idea to reactivate is again. New times, new ideas. > > I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they do not > have enough inhibitans to be granted as one. -1, what is the point of this? The key: capital already tells you, if it's a capita

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Great idea to reactivate is again. New times, new ideas. I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they do not have enough inhibitans to be granted as one. -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:11 PM To: T

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Scuba diving (Shop or spot)

2011-01-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/18 Robert Elsenaar : > Even then: > > scuba_diving:filling=air > scuba_diving:filling=nitrox32 > scuba_diving:filling=nitrox36 > scuba_diving:filling=trimix > scuba_diving:filling=oxygen John's point was that your suggested tagging method doesn't allow for places which offer several fillin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Scuba diving (Shop or spot)

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Even then: scuba_diving:filling=air scuba_diving:filling=nitrox32 scuba_diving:filling=nitrox36 scuba_diving:filling=trimix scuba_diving:filling=oxygen (scuba_diving is better then Dive_centre because also dive spots can have filling facilities without having a divecentre nearby.) and scuba_

Re: [Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread john
It seems to me that you would need to map a series of depth contours, not simply mark channels as navigable or not navigable, as different craft will require different depths of water. Also, this information will need to be updated frequently, as some shoals can shift position with every storm.

Re: [Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread charlie
Malcolm Herring (malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com) wrote: On 18/01/2011 12:44, char...@cferrero.net wrote: It would be nice to be able to map the tidal waterways that run in between the mangroves and saltmarshes - particularly the manmade ones that have been explicitly cleared to allow marine ve

[Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Looking at some big cities in Europe I find (not for the first time, I know) some mapping bugs regarding some of the more important cities, e.g. L'Hospitalet de Llolobregad [1], Treviso [2], Avellino [3], [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.43&mlon=2.11&zoom=7&layers=M [2] http://www.openstr

Re: [Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 18/01/2011 12:44, char...@cferrero.net wrote: It would be nice to be able to map the tidal waterways that run in between the mangroves and saltmarshes - particularly the manmade ones that have been explicitly cleared to allow marine vessels. Unfortunately I can't see any way of tagging a wate

[Tagging] Tidal inlets / creeks

2011-01-18 Thread charlie
Afternoon all, Access to Bing imagery has vastly increased the quality of information available for landuse in the UAE. There are major tracts of saltmarsh and mangrove wetland, e.g. here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=24.8103&lon=54.7543&zoom=13&layers=M (in Mapnik the coastline hasn't