On 6 January 2011 16:46, Steve Bennett wrote:
> In your thinking there seems to be the assumption that we run some process
> *per tag*. I think it works better to run a process *per schema revision*.
Oh, a regular update schedule, that might be a good idea, however ...
> Let's say we think that
On 6/01/2011 3:26 PM, John Smith wrote:
Exactly, this is why I'm advocating some kind of policy on how to
achieve tag updates in a much more reasonable time frame.
In your thinking there seems to be the assumption that we run some
process *per tag*. I think it works better to run a process *per
On 6 January 2011 14:10, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Or perhaps waterway=drain, if you're not fussed about the distinction
> between stormwater and drinking water.
Or subtag
waterway=conduit
conduit=storm_water|potable_water|waste_water|
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On 6 January 2011 14:23, Mike N. wrote:
> It would be nice to have a list that "map data consumers" could subscribe
> to that we could poll to verify that they are or are not using a tag, or get
> clarification on how they are using a tag. (Just what we needanother
> blankin' list!)
We cou
On 6 January 2011 14:07, Steve Bennett wrote:
> My guess is that this mailing list and talk@ reach a pretty small proportion
> of users. Simply announcing "we're changing the tag! please tag differently
> from now on!" is not remotely sufficient.
As I stated I was spit balling and this thread is
2) Post to the talk list asking for feedback/discussion
3) About 2 weeks after the last discussion/modifications to the
proposal you post a vote request to both the tagging and the talk
lists
It would be nice to have a list that "map data consumers" could subscribe
to that we could poll to ver
On 6/01/2011 2:52 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
How does one tag aqueducts that are not bridges? Examples:
waterway=canal, boat=no
Or perhaps waterway=drain, if you're not fussed about the distinction
between stormwater and drinking water.
Steve
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On 6/01/2011 2:00 PM, John Smith wrote:
This seems to be an area that OSM *really* lacks, and some people give
usage of tags as a reason not to improve things which doesn't seem
like a valid argument especially when some tags like abutters and
created_by have been depreciated.
I'm spit balling
On 6 January 2011 13:52, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> How does one tag aqueducts that are not bridges? Examples:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quabbin_Aqueduct
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicopee_Valley_Aqueduct
Based on those I'd use tunnel=yes
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aqueduct re
How does one tag aqueducts that are not bridges? Examples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quabbin_Aqueduct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicopee_Valley_Aqueduct
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aqueduct redirects to Key:bridge.
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Subject :Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Baby care shop
>From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
Date :Wed Jan 05 21:02:35 America/Chicago 2011
On 6 January 2011 10:16, Richard Welty wrote:
> too easily confused with shops sel
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:02 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 6 January 2011 10:16, Richard Welty wrote:
>> too easily confused with shops selling products made from
>> babies.
>
> Apart from research facilities using baby stem cells, what products
> are made from babies? :)
Does fried placenta count?
On 6 January 2011 10:16, Richard Welty wrote:
> too easily confused with shops selling products made from
> babies.
Apart from research facilities using baby stem cells, what products
are made from babies? :)
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On 6 January 2011 08:47, Steve Bennett wrote:
> I'm working on the basis that it's not possible to "move" any established
> tag. Would be happy to hear suggestions for how to accomplish that, though.
This seems to be an area that OSM *really* lacks, and some people give
usage of tags as a reason
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On any way without a highway=*, cycleway=track is meaningless/redundant.
How about railway=* cycleway=track?
http://www.railstotrails.org/ourWork/trailBuilding/toolbox/informationSummaries/rails-with-trails.html
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On 1/5/11 4:36 PM, Osmisto wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 21:19 +, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
I don't think anyone is likely to think this is a shop or factory using babies
as child labor; even if it were legal, babies would not be particularly
productive as workers.
Then why not shop=baby
On 6/01/2011 5:38 AM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
I would take cycleway=track to mean that the cycleway probably has a gravel,
cinder, or bare dirt surface, with minimal, if any, road cuts. In effect, it
is a footpath intended primarily for bicycle use.
Sorry, that's simply incorrect. "highway
On 6/01/2011 8:36 AM, Osmisto wrote:
Then why not shop=baby ? Selling children is illegal everywhere (I
hope) :)
I like it, for reasons I'm insufficiently articulate to explain.
Steve
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On 6/01/2011 8:56 AM, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
Solution:
highway=secundary
name=Duinweg
surface=asphalt
maxspeed=50
cycleway=track
cycleway:surface=paving_stones
cycleway:maxspeed=30
I think this has potential, and could possibly render a lot better than
having a separate highway=cyc
2011/1/5 Robert Elsenaar :
> In my study of the evolution of mapping cycleways ..
> The advantages you mentioned by using seperated cycleway is just because a
> leak in tagging possibilities.
no. this is not about rendering. It is about the preferences in
mapping: more or less abstract. The a
On 5/01/2011 7:27 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5 January 2011 15:16, Steve Bennett wrote:
waterway=dam (a wall with water on one side)
waterway=weir (a wall with water flowing over the top)
waterway=flow_control (an opening through which water sometimes flows).
flow_control=sluice_gate|flood_gate|
I map both:
1) I add cycleway:left=track to the road
2) I add adjacent=yes to the highway=cycleway, so you know you can
refer to tags on the road if you prefer
Richard
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On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
> In my study of the evolution of mapping cycleways in OSM I found out there
> was a moment cyclistshad a problem to render lanes and tracks and had the
> strong wish to create usefull cyclemaps. They did decide to avoid the render
> problem e
In my study of the evolution of mapping cycleways in OSM I found out there
was a moment cyclistshad a problem to render lanes and tracks and had the
strong wish to create usefull cyclemaps. They did decide to avoid the render
problem en start mapping for the renderer. apperently they made the
d
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 14:22 -0600, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
> For me, "baby care" sounds a lot like
> childcare/daycare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childcare Some
> possible alternatives: baby goods, baby supplies, baby products
I added in Voting section new option. So you can approve or oppose
Well, as you said, the shop is selling products for babies, not the babies
themselves.
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Subject :Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Baby care shop
>From :mailto:osmi...@gmail.com
Date :Wed Jan 05 15:36:16 America/Chicago 2011
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 21:19 +000
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 21:19 +, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
> I don't think anyone is likely to think this is a shop or factory using
> babies as child labor; even if it were legal, babies would not be
> particularly productive as workers.
Then why not shop=baby ? Selling children is illegal e
I don't think anyone is likely to think this is a shop or factory using babies
as child labor; even if it were legal, babies would not be particularly
productive as workers.
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Subject :Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Baby care shop
>From :mailto:osmi...@gmai
I agree that something such as baby products or baby supplies would be better
than baby care, since "child care" or "infant care" are routinely used to refer
to businesses that take care of babies and young children while the parents are
at work or otherwise occupied.
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On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 14:22 -0600, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
> For me, "baby care" sounds a lot like
> childcare/daycare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childcare Some
> possible alternatives: baby goods, baby supplies, baby products
Ok. I'll rename. I'am voting for baby_goods :)
But does baby_goods
For me, "baby care" sounds a lot like childcare/daycare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childcare Some possible alternatives: baby
goods, baby supplies, baby products
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Osmisto wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 04:23 +1000, John Smith wrote:
> > These shops can supply
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
> Looking on tags for cycleways I find 3 different types:
> highway=cycleway: obvious these are free ways like here
> (http://maps.google.nl/maps?hl=nl&ie=UTF8&ll=51.810446,5.173895&spn=0.00589,0.021136&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.810477,5.173954&pan
2011/1/5 Robert Elsenaar :
> Looking on tags for cycleways I find 3 different types:
> highway=cycleway: obvious these are free ways like here
> cycleway=track
Personally I consider cycleway=track a preliminary state before a
proper highway=cycleway is drawn. It is intended for cycleways that
are
cycleway=track is used when there is a cycle path paralell to a road.
But it is esentially the same as tagging the cycleway as a seperate
way with highway=cycleway.
See also: "A track is a cycle path that is separated from cars
(commonly referred to as a "bike path", "greenway", or "Class 1
facili
I would take cycleway=track to mean that the cycleway probably has a gravel,
cinder, or bare dirt surface, with minimal, if any, road cuts. In effect, it
is a footpath intended primarily for bicycle use.
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>From :mailto:rob
Looking on tags for cycleways I find 3 different types:
highway=cycleway: obvious these are free ways like here
(http://maps.google.nl/maps?hl=nl&ie=UTF8&ll=51.810446,5.173895&spn=0.00589,0.021136&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.810477,5.173954&panoid=AELkS3h8zmUs821tPi1K-w&cbp=12,36.33,,0,6.46)
cycleway=la
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 04:23 +1000, John Smith wrote:
> These shops can supply stuff for toddlers and children, not just
> infants. Also I think the word 'care' is misleading, to me, that would
> indicate some kind of place you could take your baby for medical
> assistance.
Where you was during 6 m
Hi,
> > video=* yes/no/anime/etc Video disks and tapes
> In this case we should add video=* cinema/cartoon, and
> video:genre=comedy ... Why not? :)
>
> I think we can use any such additional attributes whithout proposals
I agree with this proposal.
> The main problem is rendering anime shops o
2011/1/5 John Smith :
> On 5 January 2011 15:16, Steve Bennett wrote:
>> waterway=dam (a wall with water on one side)
>> waterway=weir (a wall with water flowing over the top)
>> waterway=flow_control (an opening through which water sometimes flows).
>> flow_control=sluice_gate|flood_gate|spillway
2011/1/5 Steve Bennett :
> On 4/01/2011 7:20 AM, Paul Norman wrote:
>>
>> They both have elements of flow control, but function in quite different
>> ways and look very different. A weir is used to raise the water level or
>> control flow, with water flowing over the top. A sluice gate is
>> essen
2011/1/5 Stephen Hope :
> There's two defintions of a landuse tag. One is any tag of the form
> landuse=*, the other is any tag describing what land is used for. Not
> all landuse=* tags fit the second definition (most of the remainder
> are landcover type tags instead), and not all of the second
Your recall is correct.
In all my work I act on "Collect it|Catagorize it|Complete it" (3
fases). Now a days I hear a lot of discussions where it is clear not
everybody knows whats in wiki and whats not. The collection is not
completely done and the collected pages are not well catagorized.
Hi All.
S.Higashi, big thanks for intersting photos!
> video=* yes/no/anime/etc Video disks and tapes
In this case we should add video=* cinema/cartoon, and
video:genre=comedy ... Why not? :)
I think we can use any such additional attributes whithout proposals
The main problem is rendering a
2011/1/1 Robert Elsenaar :
> - Where should I go to find the ultimate list of approved tags?
There is this page and category:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Approved_features
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Approved_features
it is not complete either, but if I recall right you we
On 5 January 2011 15:16, Steve Bennett wrote:
> waterway=dam (a wall with water on one side)
> waterway=weir (a wall with water flowing over the top)
> waterway=flow_control (an opening through which water sometimes flows).
> flow_control=sluice_gate|flood_gate|spillway_gate|lock_gate...
Ummm, bo
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:27:03 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> > An agricultural school may have fields, orchards, cattle yards &
> > barns etc in the school grounds. Should this landuse be a school or
> > a farm, or both? I'd be tempted to say just education myself, but
> > I could see it going both way
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