Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread Bill Ricker
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Anthony wrote: > > It's relatively recent in US law, but relatively standard elsewhere.  The > reason it's in US law is because it is required by the Berne Convention but we did it wrong ... we outlawed public domain by not creating opt-out when we rejected Opt-i

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 May 2010 13:05, Steve Bennett wrote: > Anyway, fwiw, I completely disregard the "reasonable size" rule. It > sort of makes sense for nodes (ie, don't make an "amenity=parking" > node to represent only 6 spots), but not really for areas (the end > user will clearly see that it's a tiny car pa

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > Says that amenity=parking should only be used for parking lots, and > not other less formal parking. Specifically "A parking lot is an area reserved for parking cars, trucks, motorcycles etc. Parking spaces along streets are currently not

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread Anthony
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > > AFAIK everything that is written down is copyright. > > that is a peculiarity of (relatively) recent 'reforms' in the US Code > (which made registration and even proper marking optional),

Re: [Tagging] Micromapping

2010-05-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:39 AM, antony.king wrote: > I've added a new wiki category Category:MicroMapping if anyone cares to use > it. I suggest you add lots of pages to that category yourself, if you want it to get any uptake. Steve ___ Tagging mai

Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-15 Thread Bill Ricker
re sensory=? to smell? Perhaps the word you want is Olfactory ? -- Bill n1...@arrl.net bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Micromapping

2010-05-15 Thread antony.king
I've added a new wiki category Category:MicroMapping if anyone cares to use it. I notice that the term micromapping is also used in the context of micro mapping parties. On 15 May 2010 16:23, Steve Bennett wrote: > Is there really a difference? There's just one continuum all the way > from conti

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 May 2010 05:27, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > The time these come in handy is when they show the streets in a residential > area that don't otherwise have clear streetnames - usually when there are > lots of small ways in between the buildings. Then it's practically the only > way to know which ro

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread Bill Ricker
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > AFAIK everything that is written down is copyright. that is a peculiarity of (relatively) recent 'reforms' in the US Code (which made registration and even proper marking optional), it is not universal. IANAL -- Bill n1...@arrl.net bill.n1..

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > Jonas Minnberg wrote: > > Is it OK to use information you find on map-signs next to streets or > > suburban areas? > > > > Usually they show the houses and street names in a certain area > > (residential or commercial most often). > > None I ha

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread y...@o2.pl
2010/5/15 Jonas Minnberg : > Is it OK to use information you find on map-signs next to streets or > suburban areas? I think it depends. IMO you should check FOP in your country (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama). 2010/5/15 Chris Hill : > Why not walk / cycle / drive a

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Katie Filbert
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Claudius Henrichs > wrote: > > Am 15.05.2010 19:18, Serge Wroclawski: > > > So you should rather go for getting the access tagging correctly by on > > the ground surveying. > > I collect plenty of data fo

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Claudius Henrichs wrote: > Am 15.05.2010 19:18, Serge Wroclawski: >> 2) We fix the definition of parking and change the renderer. >> > Redefining an established tag won't work. How will you ensure that the > remaining... hundreds of thousands of occurances of ameni

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Hill
Jonas Minnberg wrote: > Is it OK to use information you find on map-signs next to streets or > suburban areas? > > Usually they show the houses and street names in a certain area > (residential or commercial most often). > None I have found have ever had any sort of copyright text on them. AFAIK

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Katie Filbert wrote: > Regarding rendering, two weeks ago, a change was made to the Mapnik > rendering: Yeah, I forgot to mention that, since the changeset I applied last night was assuming the old rules. - Serge ___

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Am 15.05.2010 19:18, Serge Wroclawski: > 2) We fix the definition of parking and change the renderer. > Redefining an established tag won't work. How will you ensure that the remaining... hundreds of thousands of occurances of amenity=parking comply to your new definition? So you should rath

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Katie Filbert
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > > This appeared to be caused by the lack of access tags, since the > renderer assumes that in absence of an access tag, it renders as if > access=public were set. > > The polygons we received were of all sorts of parking- lots, side > par

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/15 Jonas Minnberg : > Is it OK to use information you find on map-signs next to streets or > suburban areas? > Usually they show the houses and street names in a certain area (residential > or commercial most often). > None I have found have ever had any sort of copyright text on them. If

[Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread Jonas Minnberg
Is it OK to use information you find on map-signs next to streets or suburban areas? Usually they show the houses and street names in a certain area (residential or commercial most often). None I have found have ever had any sort of copyright text on them. -- Sasq

Re: [Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 May 2010 03:18, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > 2) We fix the definition of parking and change the renderer. > > #2 is my favorite solution, as it seems the most "right". #3 is my > least favorite solution, since it's all high quality data. A slight twist on #2, you add sub-tags. amenity=parking

[Tagging] Parking Lots

2010-05-15 Thread Serge Wroclawski
What I'm about to post here is (for the most part) replicated in a Trac ticket to the Rendering folks at: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2968 but I think this will probably require a change to the tagging of amenity=parking, so I'm sending it here as well. In Washington, DC, we've received p

Re: [Tagging] Micromapping

2010-05-15 Thread Steve Bennett
Is there really a difference? There's just one continuum all the way from continents down to water taps. More categories (assuming you mean wiki categories) would probably help organise stuff though... Steve On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:37 AM, antony.king wrote: > While preparing the proposed playg

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-15 Thread Liz
On Sat, 15 May 2010, Petr Morávek [Xificurk] wrote: > and the last, > most puzzling is landuse=basin "An area of water that drains into a > river."... > wow, there are some pretty huge ones of those like the Amazon basin the Lake Eyre basin the Mississipi basin the fill_in_any_large_river basin s

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-15 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer napsal(a): > On the other hand: I would like to see this mess tidyed up. In this > case I suggest to first change (extend) render rules and then > encourage people to change tagging. This is all because of tagging for > the renderers: because it is sad to tag "correct" and you d

Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values

2010-05-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:21 PM, John Smith wrote: > You missed the important point I made, which was the bit about these Stop reminding me how much I dislike trying to discuss anything with you. We're in agreement. Nuff said. Steve ___ Tagging mailin