Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

David, I’m not sure that the filter is only used for display. I think it may also be used for search. In Ancient Greek, we don’t want to have to include U+2019 as part of the search request, but just the letters. As a reader of NT Greek, it doesn’t bother me to have δ αρχαια rather than δ’ αρχα

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

My argument is simple & straightforward. When you hide diacritics, you ought not to be hiding punctuation marks. Why is this so contentious? In what world does how a module displays require that punctuation be hidden? A quotation mark is not an accent! David On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 21:06, DM

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

> On Mar 17, 2025, at 4:01 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > > That is, if search success depends on the specificity of whether accents or > points are enabled, you're probably doing something wrong. Absolutely. What we are discussing is whether an apostrophe should be stripped out or not. The a

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

I mean in the code if that wasn’t clear. > On Mar 17, 2025, at 10:24 PM, DM Smith wrote: > > Karl, can you point me where in Xiphos I can find search? I’ll analyze it to > see the impacts of David’s request. Thanks, DM > >> On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:40 PM, DM Smith wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Mar 1

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

Karl, can you point me where in Xiphos I can find search? I’ll analyze it to see the impacts of David’s request. Thanks, DM > On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:40 PM, DM Smith wrote: > > > >> On Mar 17, 2025, at 5:24 PM, David Haslam > > wrote: >> >> My argument is simple &

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

> On Mar 17, 2025, at 5:24 PM, David Haslam wrote: > > My argument is simple & straightforward. Your argument is that display and search should have nothing to do with each other. > > When you hide diacritics, you ought not to be hiding punctuation marks. > > Why is this so contentious? S

[sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

Dear SWORD developers, I asked about this topic several years ago, and I'm no longer convinced by what we were told back then. After doing further research, it's my understanding that U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK ought not to be hidden by this SWORD filter. - This codepoint is not a dia

[sword-devel] Xiphos 4.3.1

A fatal module manager bug was found for 1st-time users. 4.3.0 release is retracted, 4.3.1 is already in place.___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change yo

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.3.1

Installed! 😎 Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Monday, March 17th, 2025 at 12:56 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > A fatal module manager bug was found for 1st-time users. > 4.3.0 release is retracted, 4.3.1 is already in place.__

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

The intent was to show the full word and only indicate that it was originally shown in nomina sacra. Thus, if there is a way, it would be better to show the whole word and merely note that it was nomina sacra in some attribute. There are are sometimes more than one form of nomina sacra abbrevia

Re: [sword-devel] [xiphos-users] Xiphos 4.3.1

Thanks for all the work you all are putting into this, looking forward to updating! Sent from Proton Mail Android Original Message On 2025-03-17 8:56 a.m., Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > A fatal module manager bug was found for 1st-time users. > 4.3.0 release is retracted, 4.3.1 is

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

Hi DM, One impact is on the StatResGNT module, in which both single and double left/right quotation marks have been added by the project leader. Hiding Greek Accents has the bad effect of losing the end quotation mark for all the level 2 quotations in the text. NB. It was seeing this project tha

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

David, I read your Grok 3 analysis. What is the impact of not having this change? What is the impact of making the change? Is it merely presentation of is there an issue with searching too? I’ve also been reading https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unicode/2019-January/007563.html which was ref

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

On 3/17/25 14:46, David Haslam wrote: Search results were no different with the Greek Accents on or off. That's because Xiphos' search explicitly disables Greek Accents and Hebrew Vowel Points before all searches. This was consequent to a bug report, and the solution concluded at the time was

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

Here's a creative suggestion for how to use OSIS to encode words with an elision marker. Make use of the abbr element, thus, eg: > ἀλλ’ Haven't we been discussing abbreviations in another thread? 😎 You read it first here, folks! 😉 Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

This search result is exactly what I’d expect with the current code as it has been described and shows that the filter is being used. The search request is normalized to remove all the accents and also the U+2019. The text is normalized in the same fashion. So it works with or without U+2019. I

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

Hi DM, With Xiphos 4.3.1 (latest update) when I searched TischMorph either for "δι’ ἡμερῶν", or for "δι’ ημερων", there were 2 results: - Mark 2:1 - Acts 1:3 Search results were no different with the Greek Accents on or off. I therefore conclude that your hunch was incorrect! Aside: - After

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

btw. The same 2 results were obtained by a search for "δι ημερων". i.e. Without the U+2019 in the search key. Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Monday, March 17th, 2025 at 6:46 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Hi DM, > > With Xiphos 4.3.1

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

On 3/17/25 16:01, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Not sure what's up with the terrible Preview display; it looks like UTF8-ness was lost. Oh. Xiphos is doing search term highlight in the preview result. (The yellow.) In some cases, discovering the right point in the rendered verse goes wrong, and Xip