Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-06 Thread Joachim Ansorg
> > GerElb1871 -- dunno Came from OLB, user contributed. As far as I know it's out of copyright and AFAIK the OLB guys did not enter the text. The Elb 1905 module is out of copyright now, too. I'll try to find some more infos on the net. Joachim -- Joachim Ansorg www.bibletime.info www.ansorgs.

RE: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-06 Thread Jorge Chacón
> Kekchi > Xhosa -- apparently from OLB; like it says, further info unknown Kek'chi is the language of a people group of Maya descent that is still in use today in the highlands of Guatemala, Central America. Being so, the most probable translators would be Summer Institute of Linguistics (I th

RE: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Jerry Hastings
I was about ask you about that. :-) The Strongs files are from a file produced by Michael Grier. They seem to be true to the PD printed version. The contact info for Michael Grier no longer works. Jerry At 10:00 PM 1/5/2003 -0700, Chris Little wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Chris Little wrote: > G

RE: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Chris Little
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Chris Little wrote: > GreekHebrew > HebrewGreek Sorry... made a mistake in that last post. I somehow read StrongsGreek/StrongsHebrew (which are from bf.org or a least linked to from there). These two modules came from their creator, with his permission. They're also avai

RE: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Chris Little
> 2BabDict -- came through OLB, done by Gary Gallant, TOLBSS contributor > ASV -- based on files from ebible.org & Michael Paul Johnson > Barnes -- apparently came through OLB (we'll have to fix that since a better the source is available) but not Larry's work > Esperanto -- came through OLB,

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Chris Little
> Where did Larry get his works? Primarily from other people, with a few exceptions discussed in my previous email (KJV+strongs, BDB/Thayer, TVM, various corruptions). When noting copyright/requesting permissions in the past we go to the source, not Larry. He has no control over the copyrig

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Patrick Durusau
Jonathan, Jonathan Hughes wrote: Hey Guys, I think we need to be careful with how we react to this because we do not want to go on the offense and start attacking Larry Pierce or the Online Bible. That is not a Christ like response. We need to see what is really bothering Larry and company and

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hey Guys, I think we need to be careful with how we react to this because we do not want to go on the offense and start attacking Larry Pierce or the Online Bible. That is not a Christ like response. We need to see what is really bothering Larry and company and see what we can do to allevi

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Regarding the Indonesian texts, we have a friend at UBS that has put in a good word for us at the Indonesian Bible Society, and we've contacted them directly-- now that they know who we are and what we do-- and have asked them to reconsider. We've offered to removed the modules if they still w

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver
On Sunday 05 January 2003 06:13 am, Patrick Durusau wrote: > I don't think anyone who is familiar with the Sword project or you will > take the accusations at the "Hall of Shame" seriously. The Sword project > has to be mindful of copyright claims to avoid difficulties that would > impend the proje

RE: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Stephen Denne
A search of my mods.d directory for "OLB" or "Pierce" or "online" leads me to think the following materials may be based on online bible content (mostly because they explicitly say they are): 2BabDict ASV Barnes Esperanto FreCrl GerElb1871 (possibly?) GreekHebrew HebrewGreek IGNT ItaDio ItaRive Ke

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Patrick Durusau
Troy, I don't think anyone who is familiar with the Sword project or you will take the accusations at the "Hall of Shame" seriously. The Sword project has to be mindful of copyright claims to avoid difficulties that would impend the project. Having said that, I think your record in that regard

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 01:50 AM 1/5/2003 -0600, Mike & Amy Swanson wrote: This really upsets me. I sure understand that! Before we all get too worked up about this, lets get the whole story. I have in the past exchanged email with someone that had a copyright issue of a different sort with the OLB people. He tal

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I've been in recent dialog with Larry for about 2 months now. I've done everything I know how-- recently and through the years-- to try to please him, even honoring unfounded claims of copyright that he makes. I'm not sure why he's been so rash in his correspondence lately. The short of it is

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-05 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 02:51 AM 1/5/2003 -0500, David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver wrote: I used to use the OLB back in my windows days, and I specifically remember there being public domain notices on modules in their copyright info. 1)If OLB can use them because they're pd then other people can too I would thi

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-04 Thread Mike & Amy Swanson
This really upsets me. Can't the Online Bible people just be grateful that the Word of God is getting out without stooping to a "hall of shame?" I believe the shame rests on them in acting they way they are, trying to discredit your work and ministry. If they are so worried about you "steali

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-04 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver
On Sunday 05 January 2003 01:40 am, Jerry Hastings wrote: > Someone should ask them for a list of specific works that they belive are > infringed, and exactly how they are infringed. Let me know if they try to > pull the compilation copyright line. I used to use the OLB back in my windows days, an

Re: [sword-devel] Accusations...

2003-01-04 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 12:31 AM 1/5/2003 -0300, Christian Renz wrote: I guess it would be good to react to this _quickly_. Do we still have a large number of modules created out of OLB sources? Someone should ask them for a list of specific works that they belive are infringed, and exactly how they are infringed.