Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-11 Thread Ben Morgan
On 10/03/2009, Chris Little wrote: > > > Daniel Owens wrote: > >> One more thing to consider is poetic elements that are right-justified. >> One of the translations I have worked on preparing for SWORD had "Selah" >> right justified (VietNVB, in case you're interested). I just encoded it like >>

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 10, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: Greg Hellings wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: Yes, I considered that means of markup, but it didn't produce the result I was looking for in the front-ends I was targeting, which is why I went for the level

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 10, 2009, at 4:22 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: That sounds excellent. I hope to see it implemented soon. Daniel Peter von Kaehne wrote: Daniel Owens wrote: This is probably opening a low-priority can of worms, but what if some controls on the form a module is displayed in were encoded i

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 10, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: Am 10.03.2009 um 01:03 schrieb DM Smith: But SonWon's admonishing that might not be appropriate for portable devices should be listened to. I don't know of the osishtmlhref or osisrtf filters are used there. A little of topic, but

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread Daniel Owens
Greg Hellings wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: Yes, I considered that means of markup, but it didn't produce the result I was looking for in the front-ends I was targeting, which is why I went for the level="4" attribute. This is one of the tensions wi

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread Daniel Owens
That sounds excellent. I hope to see it implemented soon. Daniel Peter von Kaehne wrote: Daniel Owens wrote: This is probably opening a low-priority can of worms, but what if some controls on the form a module is displayed in were encoded in the conf file? I mean, you could define how ce

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Am 10.03.2009 um 01:03 schrieb DM Smith: But SonWon's admonishing that might not be appropriate for portable devices should be listened to. I don't know of the osishtmlhref or osisrtf filters are used there. A little of topic, but it what state are the RTF filters? Are they doing the s

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: > Yes, I considered that means of markup, but it didn't produce the result I > was looking for in the front-ends I was targeting, which is why I went for > the level="4" attribute. This is one of the tensions with XML--function is > favored over

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Daniel Owens wrote: This is probably opening a low-priority can of worms, but what if some controls on the form a module is displayed in were encoded in the conf file? I mean, you could define how certain attributes should be displayed to give module developers more control over how their modul

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread Daniel Owens
Yes, I considered that means of markup, but it didn't produce the result I was looking for in the front-ends I was targeting, which is why I went for the level="4" attribute. This is one of the tensions with XML--function is favored over form, leaving the form up to the engine's filters or fron

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Little
Daniel Owens wrote: One more thing to consider is poetic elements that are right-justified. One of the translations I have worked on preparing for SWORD had "Selah" right justified (VietNVB, in case you're interested). I just encoded it like so: Sê-la. It isn't right-justified, but I think

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread Daniel Owens
One more thing to consider is poetic elements that are right-justified. One of the translations I have worked on preparing for SWORD had "Selah" right justified (VietNVB, in case you're interested). I just encoded it like so: Sê-la. It isn't right-justified, but I think level 3 was the highes

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread SonWon
Ben Morgan wrote: But SonWon's admonishing that might not be appropriate for portable devices should be listened to. I don't know of the osishtmlhref or osisrtf filters are used there. I think this is important to display, though the size of indent might be negotiable. Well, I

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread Ben Morgan
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM, DM Smith wrote: > On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Ben Morgan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:43 AM, DM Smith wrote: > > Thanks Chris. Based on that I've updated >> http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_poetic_material. >> >> I checked the SWORD and JSwor

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Ben Morgan wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:43 AM, DM Smith wrote: Thanks Chris. Based on that I've updated http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_poetic_material . I checked the SWORD and JSword renderers and they don't do indentation based upon level.

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread Ben Morgan
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:43 AM, DM Smith wrote: > Thanks Chris. Based on that I've updated > http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_poetic_material. > > I checked the SWORD and JSword renderers and they don't do indentation > based upon level. I think it would be simple to add. I'll do it

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread SonWon
Hey, just wanted to throw out my two sense worth. This needs to be selectable since small screens may not benefit from indentation. Going back to lurking now. DM Smith wrote: Chris Little wrote: DM Smith wrote: With regard to OSIS, if there are short-comings, we should try to influence t

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread DM Smith
Chris Little wrote: DM Smith wrote: With regard to OSIS, if there are short-comings, we should try to influence the standard. This is a proper venue for how we at CrossWire would like to work with OSIS. Regarding the element and indents here is what the manual has to say: *l: The l elemen

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: With regard to OSIS, if there are short-comings, we should try to influence the standard. This is a proper venue for how we at CrossWire would like to work with OSIS. Regarding the element and indents here is what the manual has to say: *l: The l element is used to mark sepa

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-08 Thread DM Smith
On Nov 4, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Ben Morgan wrote: I've been improving the layout of poetry in BPBible. Many Bibles have poetry with two levels of lines, with one level more indented than others. (If you don't know what I'm getting at, look at the attached screenshot from BPBible) When I firs

[sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2008-11-04 Thread Ben Morgan
I've been improving the layout of poetry in BPBible. Many Bibles have poetry with two levels of lines, with one level more indented than others. (If you don't know what I'm getting at, look at the attached screenshot from BPBible) When I first implemented this, I did it for the ESV. The ESV marks