On Sunday, April 28, 2024 6:25:28 PM EDT Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
> What's at that URL is First Edition (2006), not Second (2017).
>
> The difference is most easily found in the number of footnotes they're
> proud to mention (60K+). That's the number from First Edition; in Second
> Edition, the NET
On 4/28/24 16:28, Matěj Cepl wrote:
On Thu Apr 25, 2024 at 4:02 PM CEST, David "Judah's Shadow" Blue wrote:
Has anyone worked with or floated the idea to the bible.org people of getting
the second edition of the NET bible into the SWORD Project?
I don’t understand. The full version of NET bible
On Thu Apr 25, 2024 at 4:02 PM CEST, David "Judah's Shadow" Blue wrote:
> Has anyone worked with or floated the idea to the bible.org people of getting
> the second edition of the NET bible into the SWORD Project?
I don’t understand. The full version of NET bible is provided
upstream (on https://s
Has anyone worked with or floated the idea to the bible.org people of getting
the second edition of the NET bible into the SWORD Project?
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Hi there ..
I've just taken a fresh look at the NET bible Sword instructions page
which I put there more than two years ago. It is now way, way out of
date ... and with the BibleTime and Xiphos Windows ports to be added
soon, needs completely re-thinking. See: http://www.bible.org/asset
On Dec 19, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Barry Drake wrote:
Hi there ..
I suggest that someone check out the download for BibleDesktop as
well - I think that there was a problem a while back. Has this been
resolved?
I think so. The problem was that the http was shut off. Now it is open
again
Hi there ..
I've noticed that some users - especially Mac - have had difficulty with
the NET bible modules. The NET for Sword instructions are found at:
http://www.bible.org/assets/sword/ with a link to a page for each
flavour of Sword. None of them have changed since I put them up when I
Unfortunately, we're talking about the sword-support list. Any email to
any of the support email addresses gets forwarded to this list, where
volunteers hopefully provide answers. Most mail comes from users needing
help, who shouldn't even need to know that a mailing list is involved.
This list
Hi Troy,
I am a subscriber, and I also started
http://www.maildeflector.netseveral years ago using custom code. It
is an RBL.
If this list is a subscriber only post list, then you can use
maildeflector to block all ip addresses except those ip addresses that have
subscribed through judiciou
Hi Barry,
I have added spam filters to sword-support recently. It is much
better but will still generate about 5 spam messages a day. I concur
with Chris about forwarding email to sword-devel. We have had many
complaints from people who have found their support emails archived on
public f
Hi there .
As the 'culprit' that was forwarded to this list much to the dismay of
Chris was a query about the NET bible and Sword, could I say that if
anyone spots a problem on the Sword support list that is down to one of
the NET bible modules, they can feel free to forward it to me.
Someone had gotten started on that a while back (check last
summer/fall on the mailing list archives for something like
"sharpsword" or the like). As I recall he got the wrapper to compile
but ran into some issues - or maybe just abandoned the idea of the
front-end to see what Troy wanted to do wi
Hey everyone, is anyone out there doing a .NET bible study tool? I
have been looking around to try and figure out how to create one and
stumbled across the Sword Project and figured this was probably the
place I should start. If no one has anything started I will start one
up that will be open so
Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
> Troy, the first link in your front page news item about NET Bible
> inadvertently links to http://www.crosswire.org/sword/bible.org, which
> of course returns a 404 Not Found.
>
Good catch.
Fixed.
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Troy, the first link in your front page news item about NET Bible
inadvertently links to http://www.crosswire.org/sword/bible.org, which
of course returns a 404 Not Found.
Barry, at http://store.bible.org/product.asp?ProductID=110, you still
have a footnote referring to WinSword shortcomings from
Barry,
Thanks for the heads-up. We've added a news item with a link to their
page. This has been a long time coming and your help with this was
instrumental in bringing this to fruition! Congratulations and THANK YOU!
-Troy.
Barry Drake wrote:
> Hi there
>
> http://www
Hi there
http://www.bible.org/ now shows the NET for Sword modules right on the
front page with links to Sword and to the download pages. I wonder if
someone here might consider a reciprocal link on the Sword site? (If
there's one there already I've missed it).
God bless,
Barry
-- Fro
Hi Troy .
bible.org have now removed the 'item not yet available' notice from the
NET for Sword page at their online store. The link is:
http://www.bible.org/store/product.asp?ProductID=110 for both the free
and the for-pay versions. The user has to give contact details and
receives
On 7/1/06, Barry Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All the information is there in the database just waiting to be accessed
> as we are able. Unfortunately, the scripture references are in such
> diverse formats that we haven't yet been able to write a script that
> resolves all of them. I don't
On 7/4/06, Barry Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Matt
>
> Matt Reimer wrote:
> > No, it has nothing to do with the PDA version. The transliterated text
> > is in parenthesis, but it is not marked up, so there's no way to mark
> > that text with a different font.
> >
> OK - I've put t
Hi Matt
Matt Reimer wrote:
> No, it has nothing to do with the PDA version. The transliterated text
> is in parenthesis, but it is not marked up, so there's no way to mark
> that text with a different font.
>
OK - I've put this and your other point in my notes to look at. Thanks
for
Hi Troy ...
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Barry,
> Also wanted to comment on the recent stuff about popups not showing
> Hebrew... Not sure what problem there may be. Our popups should support
> full Unicode display, so would think the problem is the font.
Unless I've misunderstood s
Barry,
Also wanted to comment on the recent stuff about popups not showing
Hebrew... Not sure what problem there may be. Our popups should support
full Unicode display, so would think the problem is the font.
-Troy.
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On 7/1/06, Barry Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Matt ..
>
> Matt Reimer wrote:
> > I continue working on my PDA sword viewer with NET, and am really
> > enjoying it. I'm finding small issues, which would be nice to fix
> > before the release if possible. These come to mind:
> >
> > 1
Hi Troy ...
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> sword should be able to parse them all. Our verse parser handles
> pretty crazy stuff. You can use tests/parsekey or utilities/vs2osisref
Thanks for that. I'll take a look at them next week. I'm off to
Ireland for a few days tomorrow. The
Barry,
sword should be able to parse them all. Our verse parser handles
pretty crazy stuff. You can use tests/parsekey or utilities/vs2osisref
We have a simple web form to vs2osisref up at:
http://crosswire.org/study/examples/parsevs.jsp
Hope this helps,
-Troy.
Barry Drake w
Hi Matt ..
Matt Reimer wrote:
> I continue working on my PDA sword viewer with NET, and am really
> enjoying it. I'm finding small issues, which would be nice to fix
> before the release if possible. These come to mind:
>
> 1. Can transliterated text in the notes be marked up? This would b
On 6/30/06, Barry Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there .
>
> NET have now placed a preliminary announcement on the bible.org site for
> the Sword modules. See:
> http://www.bible.org/store/product.asp?ProductID=110 The notice aims
> for a release date of July 15th.
Barry,
Thanks
Hi there .
NET have now placed a preliminary announcement on the bible.org site for
the Sword modules. See:
http://www.bible.org/store/product.asp?ProductID=110 The notice aims
for a release date of July 15th.
God bless,
Barry
-- From Barry Drake (The Revd) minister of the Netherfi
Hi there .
To existing testers only: The latest pre-release, ver. 0.9.3 is now out.
God bless,
Barry
-- From Barry Drake (The Revd) minister of the Netherfield United Reformed
church, Nottingham see http://www.jesusinnetherfield.org.uk for our church
homepages).
Replies - [EMAIL PROTEC
Hi Martin ...
Thanks for your encouragement.
Martin Gruner wrote:
You don't want to host the (locked) files at the main crosswire repo? If you
have you own repo at bible.org, we might add this to the list of default
repos ("libraries") in BibleTime, so that users will have immediate ac
Barry,
I'm excited about the upcoming Net Bible release for Sword!
> 2) BibleTime: This functions extremely well with NET only, and displays
> in a very helpful way. BibleTime users will be encouraged to take NET,
> (or NETfree) as the only required module. BibleTime uses install
> manager, an
Hi there
We expect to have release candidate 0.9.3 out very soon, and it seems
very probable that this version will be approved and will form release
version 1.0. The following is what we expect to happen when we
release. I look forward to any comments/suggestions.
1) MACSword:
Hi there .
Thanks for all the feedback we have received from NET testers. There is
now a new version on the download site in install manager format and in
zipped format. The zipped files are at: ftp://ftp.bible.org/sword/ZIPS
and the install manager instructions are as before - poste
Barry, I can try loading it on my pocketPC and my linux box if you want...WesOn 2/17/06, Barry Drake <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi there ...There is now an experimental NET bible and notes module out for test.
We need a small number of testers - but we need people from allplatforms that Sword c
Hi there .
Joachim Ansorg wrote:
I tested yesterday and it worked fine using BibleTime, which uses the
InstallMgr stuff of Sword 1.5.8.
Thanks Troy and Joachim. I've got it to work OK now. (and in doing so learned
a lot about tar.gz and InstallManager). God bless,
God bless,
Bar
Hi Joachim .
Joachim Ansorg wrote:
I tested yesterday and it worked fine using BibleTime, which uses the
InstallMgr stuff of Sword 1.5.8.
Thanks for that - I'll check if I have the correct install manager - I
know my BibleCS is up to date, but I've never bothered that much about
in
Barry,
I tested yesterday and it worked fine using BibleTime, which uses the
InstallMgr stuff of Sword 1.5.8.
Joachim
> Hi Troy ...
>
> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > InstallManager should work just fine without it. It is a 'cache'
> > of the mods.d directory created with:
> > tar czv
Hi Troy ...
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
InstallManager should work just fine without it. It is a 'cache'
of the mods.d directory created with:
tar czvf mods.d tar.gz mods.d
Just as a check, I untar'd the version of mods.d.tar.gz from the Sword
ftp site and re-tar'd it using 'tar czvf
Hi Troy .
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
[mods.d.tar.gz]
InstallManager should work just fine without it. It is a 'cache'
of the mods.d directory created with:
tar czvf mods.d.tar.gz mods.d If InstallManager doesn't find it,
it will proceed to get it's information from the mods.d
Barry,
InstallManager should work just fine without it. It is a 'cache' of
the mods.d directory created with:
tar czvf mods.d.tar.gz mods.d
If InstallManager doesn't find it, it will proceed to get it's
information from the mods.d directory.
I've actually just looked at your mods.d.tar.g
Hi there .
Can someone who knows the intricacies of Windows Install Manager help
me. I have created a tester's download site to work with Install
manager at ftp.bible.org/sword and placed the modules for testing on
it. I have tried to create the mods.d.tar.gz which Install Manager
n
Hi there ...
There is now an experimental NET bible and notes module out for test.
We need a small number of testers - but we need people from all
platforms that Sword covers. In the first instance, please e-mail me
(off list) and tell me what platform you use and what experience you
ha
Thanks DM. I saw that thread after I had posted the one that I did to
the list. David, Barry, I'm willing to help where I can. I'll admit,
I've only thought about what doing a project like this would entail.
Josh
On 2/9/06, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes. For details:
> See the prev
Yes. For details:
See the previous posting entitled "NetBible plans with Sword modules"
from David Austin from Feb 8.
And also the thread called Net Bible started by Barry Drake earlier the
same day.
Josh Gould wrote:
Greetings,
Is there any one currently working on, or has any one worked o
Greetings,
Is there any one currently working on, or has any one worked on bringing the
NET Bible to the SWORD project? I know that on their website (www.bible.org)
they have released a version that is a module for e-Sword, which I've
gathered is not the same as The SWORD Project. I'd prefer to se
Hi there ..
L.Allan-pbio wrote:
Just curious ... what is the status of The CrossWire Society and
relevant permissions, licensing, and copyright of the NET Bible notes
from Bible.org and/or BSF (Biblical Studies Foundation) and/or
Biblical Studies Press?
It is the intention of bib
Hi Chris ...
Chris Little wrote:
But I'm not sure what that has to do with footnote numbers in the
Bible text. If you're looking to click on a footnote number in the
text of the NET bible and have it change the commentary module to the
NET notes and change its verse to the verse co
Just curious ... what is the status of The CrossWire Society and relevant
permissions, licensing, and copyright of the NET Bible notes from Bible.org
and/or BSF (Biblical Studies Foundation) and/or Biblical Studies Press?
My impression is that the NET Bible itself is relatively unencumbered wit
Barry Drake wrote:
An alternative is to make the notes into a commentary module,
with the footnotes in the text neing represented by footnote numbers.
If this second alternative were considered, is it possible to link these
footnote numbers to the commentary window? What I'm looking for is
l
If I recall correctly, you are right. The tag only worked to create a reference to a Bible work. I don't recall if Bibletime gave support for specifying a specific version to open or not. And I don't think that generic tags were working, but I thought that Daniel Glassey was working on impleme
Greg Hellings wrote:
I could almost swear that there is support in at least some front ends
already for linking from a entity. Doesn't Bibletime
support that? I thought that it was working this summer when I was
working with several ThML texts. Maybe I was thinking of some one of
the proto
I could almost swear that there is support in at least some front ends already for linking from a entity. Doesn't Bibletime support that? I thought that it was working this summer when I was working with several ThML texts. Maybe I was thinking of some one of the prototype implementations we we
Hi there .
Some of us are doing a feasibility study on the NET bible from
http://www.bible.org/ with a view to offering a Sword module. The NET
bible comes with a massive set of footnotes. In the present incarnation
of Sword (certainly in the Windows front end) the use of such extens
Tom Whittemore wrote:
Brother Chris:
I have composed a couple of NET Bible modules, one with footnote
markers and one without. I am currently struggling with the NET Bible
Commentary module. I hesitate to bother you, but I really need your
help. Although I have the HTML source available, I
Brother Chris:
I have composed a couple of NET Bible modules, one with footnote
markers and one without. I am currently struggling with the NET Bible
Commentary module. I hesitate to bother you, but I really need your
help. Although I have the HTML source available, I have composed a
e-Sw
Hi Joachim ...
Joachim Ansorg wrote:
It's not right that encrypted modules can't be compressed.
My apologies for that. I had an old version of mod2zmod that didn't
have the compress facility. I've updated it and tested it out! Thanks.
God bless,
Barry
-- From Barry Drake (The Revd) min
Hi,
> Also, you mentioned you wanted to compress the module intl a zmod. At
> the present time, locked (encrypted) modules can't be compressed, and
> you're going to want to lock the commentary module using the cipherraw
> utility.
It's not right that encrypted modules can't be compressed.
mod2z
Brother Troy:
When I did some checking, and for some reason, the AKJV is in both
the \rawtext\ AND the \ztext\ folders! I used the lo.conf as a source
for the net.conf instead and IT WORKED! Sorry, to "shout", but I'm am
just so excited! I have been up for 17 hours fooling around with th
Hi Tom ..
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
I think I might have spotted the problem: you mention the NET
\modules\texts\rawtext\ folder
It works OK for me - I ran imp2vs on the file you sent me and it
converst fine. My .conf file is as follows (for test in line 1 and 2
use NET):
[TEST]
Data
Tom,
I think I might have spotted the problem: you mention the NET
\modules\texts\rawtext\ folder, then you show a .conf file pointing to:
./modules/textx/*ztext*/net/
notice the 'rawtext' | 'ztext' conflict in the paths.
Hope this helps.
-Troy.
Tom Whittemore wrote:
Brother Troy:
Thank
Brother Troy:
Thanks for responding. When the SWORD started, it found the net.conf
file in the newmods folder, and moved it to the mods.d folder.
Since the AJKV works well, I copied the AKJV ot, nt, ot.vss, and the
nt.vss files into the NET \modules\texts\rawtext\ folder, thus
overwritin
Hi Tom .
Tom Whittemore wrote:
The .conf file (shown below) was plasced in the "newmods" folder and
The SWORD program was started. It found the "new" module and
installed it, but nothing showed up when I tried to show either OT or
NT chapters. What am I doing wrong?
Try Troy's sugge
Tom,
Try placing the net.conf file in mods.d instead of newmods (shouldn't
matter). Also, you can't change the nt or ot files. The nt.vss and
ot.vss are indecies into exact character positions of the nt and ot
files. If you remove a character, then everything will be off by one.
Suggestion
Brother Chris, Troy and Barry:
First, please accept my sincere thanks for responding to my
(obviously, stupid "rookie") questions. Once I get these modules
going, I would be honoured to help the rookies that follow after me by
passing on what I glean from the "masters" (didn't I read
some
To add to what Troy said, I would really recommend trying to encode the
Bible in OSIS. In order to encode notes, section titles, paragraphing,
references, etc., you'll have to use some kind of markup, and OSIS is
the markup format the Sword supports best.
Tom Whittemore wrote:
I have tried to u
Dear Bothers and Sisters:
I have just joined this forum today. I am presently working with the
folks at http://www.bible.org (the
NET Bible
folks) and they have assigned me the task of composing some SWORD
Project NET Bible modules for distribution (some for free and some
(i.e., the comple
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Barry Drake wrote:
> Hi there .
>
> On 1 Jul 2004 at 13:38, Chris Little wrote:
> > Also, I don't know the feelings of others with regard to third party
> > distribution of modules.
>
> For my two-penn'orth, I'd say go for it! Any means that makes modules
> - esp
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver wrote:
> On Thursday 01 July 2004 04:38 pm, Chris Little wrote:
> > Also, I don't know the feelings of others with regard to third party
> > distribution of modules. In cases where they're just distributing one
> > module, especially, I t
On Thursday 01 July 2004 04:38 pm, Chris Little wrote:
> I think it's a bit of a disservice to our users since
> they could not use InstallMgr for installation and updating as
> conveniently as it is at the moment with a single download site.
Perhaps, but at least it is service at some level. As t
On Thursday 01 July 2004 04:38 pm, Chris Little wrote:
> Also, I don't know the feelings of others with regard to third party
> distribution of modules. In cases where they're just distributing one
> module, especially, I think it's a bit of a disservice to our users since
> they could not use Ins
Hi there .
On 1 Jul 2004 at 13:38, Chris Little wrote:
> Also, I don't know the feelings of others with regard to third party
> distribution of modules.
For my two-penn'orth, I'd say go for it! Any means that makes modules
- especially quality ones like NET - available to all has to
I would say you can go ahead and contact BSF if you want, but a couple of
things have changed since that mail went out. The main change being our
adoption of OSIS. I have an OSIS version of NET at some stage of
completion and can get that done in the next few weeks. However, we would
no long
Hey again all - coming out of Lurk Mode :)
When I spoke with my friends at the Biblical Studies Foundation about
this, they were positive about doing it. But, the text only - no
footnotes - would be available for download as a module, and then it
would have to be served through the bible.org webs
I was talking to David Puranen about the NET translation, and he knew
some of the people involved in the NET translation. This is what he
just emailed me:
Hey, you know how we were talking about the NET translation? Well
turns out they really want to get it out for free software things :)
The
Good day,
The NET Bible's authorization for use in the Sword program has stalled a
number of times. It has not made it to approved and available as far as
I remember from the posts. It would be great to have it!
I've thought of this module and would like to see it split into Bible
and commenta
Michael,
Introduction: I'm a SW eng that has been using GnomeSword for awhile and
am familiar with your project, but you don't know me!
I just found a message in the archives about the NET Bible. What is the
current status as you know it? Is it being worked on as a module? I
contacted BSF about i
> If there is still interest in developing NET Modules for the SWORD
> project, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED], and copy me on the
> message so I can make double-sure that it is recieved.
Having a Sword NET module would be AWESOME!
mg
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Hi folks,
I was able to see a *preview* edition of the NET Bible: Second Beta
Edition today, as the first case *just* came in. It is *not* yet ready
for sale, so don't expect to be able to order it yet. The new version
is slightly smaller despite the addition of 3,000 more footnotes (over
60,000
Hello Hampton,
thank you for your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I shall reply on behalf of the
BibleTime project, and am cc'ing to the sword development list.
First of all, I want to clear something. BibleTime (http://bibletime.de) is
not associated with esword (http://esword.net) but with The Sw
Matt and Patty Bucken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 1:04 PM
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible
> Don,
>
> I just recently found the Sword Project, but so far am excited about the
> program and its ease of use. I was reading th
Chris,
Here is that NET Bible conversion tool I was telling you about.
The source code and a list of corrections is included in the zip file.
http://www.jeff-jackson.com/Religion/netprogram.zip
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
Hi there ..
On 18 Sep 2002 at 16:51, Chris Little wrote:
> Yes, we've got the
> modules made already, so if we get permission, they're ready to go (more or
> less--they could use a little more testing).
Just to let Chris know - I've had these two modules (NET and NETNOTES) up
and testing si
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Chris Little wrote:
> Sorry I didn't respond to your message on bible-linux. Yes, we've got the
> modules made already, so if we get permission, they're ready to go (more
> or less--they could use a little more testing).
Ok I can't really help with the testing, but I'll t
Someone said the NET module needed more testers. I would be happy to put it
through its paces. I've been a fan of the bible.org site for about six years
and am very familar with the NET bible.
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, September 18, 2002 4:06 PM
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Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible Modules
Hi folks?
Is there still interest in developing NET Bible modules if permission
can be secured?
http://www.netbible.org/
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Michael Hamblin wrote:
>
> Hi folks?
>
> Is there still interest in developing NET Bible modules if permission can
> be secured?
>
> http://www.netbible.org/
Hi,
Sorry I didn't respond to your message on bible-linux. Yes, we've got the
modules made already, so if we ge
Hi folks?
Is there still interest in developing NET Bible modules if permission can
be secured?
http://www.netbible.org/
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Little
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
>
>
>
>
> > I don'
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Subject: RE: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain.
> I believe there is a copywrite on it.
Yup. NET is not PD. It's not available for non-commercial
distribution. As far as licensin
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain.
> I believe there is a copywrite on it.
Yup. NET is not PD. It's not available for non-commercial
distribution. As far as licensing goes, it's at least as restrictive as
any other text I know of. There are I believe only two
Hey Everyone,
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain. I believe
> there is a copywrite on it.
Yeah, I believe it is copyrighted however if they are willing to provide it
for anyone to download for free in HTML format as well as some other useful
formats, then I believe
I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain. I believe
there is a copywrite on it.
-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't
Hey Everyone,
I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about why we don't have the
NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from www.netbible.org in
html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to format
the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me
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