Mike Sangrey wrote:
> Bobby Nations <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > It's a bit late to rework the chapter and verse markup since it's been
> > around for so long as to become the accepted rendering. Sometimes
> > you've just got to live with the legacy systems warts.
>
> True enough, but we need,
Bobby Nations <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> It's a bit late to rework the chapter and verse markup since it's been
> around for so long as to become the accepted rendering. Sometimes
> you've just got to live with the legacy systems warts.
True enough, but we need, we really do, we need to NOT d
Bobby Nations <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Generally, it's best when designing a tagging language using XML to
> leave the presentation elements out of the XML entirely and let the
> XSL handle that aspect of things. That goes for quotes as well, since
> they're additions to the original texts (t
Kirt Christensen wrote:
> Being only slightly familiar with XML or Sword, I'll offer some limited
> thoughts.
>
> > XML doesn't allow more than one hierarchy in a document. Here's an
> >example of logical XML markup.
> >
> >In the
> >beginning.
> >
> >This is all fine and dandy, bu
I haven't been following his too closely, so forgive me if this has already
been posted, but it looks terribly relevant...
August 29, 2001
2001-235
'Free trade zone' for electronic Bible texts takes major step forward
by Jan Nunley
(ENS) Commercial and non-profit groups, spearheaded by
Being only slightly familiar with XML or Sword, I'll offer some limited
thoughts.
> XML doesn't allow more than one hierarchy in a document. Here's an
>example of logical XML markup.
>
>In the
>beginning.
>
>This is all fine and dandy, but what about , Intro,
>Paragraph, Red, Bol
Interesting discussion. There is another way to do multiple
hierarchies: Instead of trying to think of the best way to store our data
in XML that will be a catch all for every possible hierarchy, we could have
our own database structure that isn't XML, ideally optimized more for space
and/or
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Subject: Re: [sword-devel] HELP! Need your feedback on XML Markup
Language
Troy,
Sorry, your information about XML is out-dated! (Well, by a day anyway.)
;-)
Take a look at the presentation Ma
Troy,
"Troy A. Griffitts" wrote:
>
> You're such a smart alec! :)
>
Sorry, could not resist! ;-) It has been a long week and I needed some
humor to lighten my day!
> Liked the paper, though it stretched my knowledge of XPointer and XSLT.
>
> Might I suggest, rather than force the granularity
Patrick Durusau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Take a look at the presentation Matthew O'Donnell and I did at the
> Extreme Markup Language conference in Montreal yesterday.
> http://www.sbl-site2.org/Extreme2001
Excellent!
--
Mike Sangrey
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Landisburg, Pa.
You're such a smart alec! :)
Liked the paper, though it stretched my knowledge of XPointer and XSLT.
Might I suggest, rather than force the granularity to the smallest
PCDATA in all associative meta hierarchies, that you designate one
document the 'master'; let it raise it's hierarchy from a fla
Troy,
Sorry, your information about XML is out-dated! (Well, by a day anyway.)
;-)
Take a look at the presentation Matthew O'Donnell and I did at the
Extreme Markup Language conference in Montreal yesterday.
http://www.sbl-site2.org/Extreme2001
The presentation, paper (submitted to Markup Tech
BTW, one other thought...
If you want to eventually enable sophisticated searches, you better
get the XML markup correct now.
For example,
Give me all quotes which contain Present Active Indicative verbs
believed to be Historical Presents.
Give me all paragraphs containing a EPI pre
Regarding the problem of overlapping hierarchies:
Yes, indeedy! This is a problem.
This is, at least from a linguist's viewpoint, one of the major issues
with Sword and/or the XML markup being used. It is VERY verse
oriented. Please don't read that as being harsh. I don't intend
that. And,
At 04:16 AM 8/17/2001 -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>Yes, but remember this is for technical meta markup of Biblical texts, a
>'"' character ignores any meta information. Ideally, a quote might
>actually have all kinds of attributes:
>
>Text for HISTORICAL_PRESENT="yes">a versetext for
>the ne
At 03:27 AM 8/17/2001 -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>Text for a versetext for the next
>verse
>
>Is INVALID!
Can a tag such as be defined?
Text for a versetext
for the next
verse
Jerry
Speaking of quote attributes, what else might be included?
>From our previous example (restated and cleaned up below), we have:
this is
quoted text
http://www.xml101.com/dtd/
On 08/17/01, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Here's a less formal invite to discuss a few topics about XML Markup.
I hope you don't mind if I chime in a bit.
> This is all fine and dandy, but what about , Intro,
> Paragraph, Red, Bold, Italic, etc! Most of these things WILL cross over
> the si
Nuno,
Thanks!
nuno barreto wrote:
>
> Text for a versetext for the
>next verse
>
> If quoting means italic, for example, it will all appear italic.
>
> If you wants to put a ", then dont use tags.
>
> Text for "a versetext for the" next verse
Yes, but remember this is for technical
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OK,
Here's a less formal invite to discuss a few topics about XML Markup.
I think XML stinks for Bible Text Markup!
XML doesn't allow more than one hierarchy in a document. Here's an
example of logical XML markup.
In the
beginning.
This is all fine and dandy, b
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