Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/08/2010 08:51 PM, Nic Carter wrote: > the good thing about it is that we can make one promote the various > front-ends and the other can promote dev/module making? However, I > think we need a better way of switching between the 2 than Mozilla > do. A link to the wiki from http://crosswire

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Nic Carter
On 09/11/2010, at 10:38 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > So > we really need consensus at least at the core developers/contributors > level. My opinion about all of this is that I like the way Mozilla do this: mozilla.org is for the community/developers and mozilla.com is for end-users. Ignore

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
DM Smith wrote: > We still have duplication. I think we should remove the duplicates, > retaining the copy in the wiki. Also, the wiki needs to be more > prominent for developers to find. True > Regarding the FAQ. It was felt that the FAQ would be maintained on > the wiki with a static copy in t

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread DM Smith
Late comment to the thread: Recently, there were two efforts to cleanup the website. Both, IMHO, were good as far as they went. These two related to the wiki and the front page of the website. It was agreed that the front page should face users of CrossWire Bible Software. And that the wiki wa

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Several attempts to answer got swallowed by some problem in my webmail. Now back home a last attempt... "Troy A. Griffitts" wrote: > Sure I agree our website needs updating, but a CMS doesn't magically > update and bring accord to our website. No. I would agree. But a well thought through plan

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Chris Little
On 11/8/2010 1:17 AM, Caleb Maclennan wrote: Chris you mention the issue of balancing devel news / nightly snapshot type updates and releases that the public aught to be informed about. I realize this is an issue, but it was pointed out just last week on this list that the information for diata

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Sure I agree our website needs updating, but a CMS doesn't magically update and bring accord to our website. We have had a long and notorious history of complaint about our website. Someone goes off and reorganizes it the way they think it should be (about once every 5 years or so) and then we st

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Chris Burrell
All, My first impression, albeit a few years ago, was the same thing. I found it particularly hard to find my way around things. By chance I managed to stumble across the Jira instance, but then lost it again when I was wanting to see how much activity was happening. So whether a CMS or some other

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Caleb Maclennan
Troy and Chris et all, I cannot speak for what David felt as the exact problem, but I can tell you why I jumped in with a comment. Troy it's hard to come up with a specific example because the problem might be best described as general discombobulation. The main crosswire site and the sword sub si

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-06 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I agree with Chris on this issue. CMS has been a debated topic in the past. >From my conservative position, you must give a specific, real world problem we currently have which is not easily solved with our current infrastructure, or a real world benefit we are currently lacking because we do not

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-06 Thread Chris Little
On 11/6/2010 3:49 AM, David Haslam wrote: We have an ftpmirror that does not keep track of updates to scripts and other software tools that we host. What you're referring to here (linking directly to the SVN versions of perl scripts that we maintain) would be akin to replacing every single

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-06 Thread Caleb Maclennan
I agree that this is a serious shortcoming of the overall project. I would be willing to pitch in some experience in this area. If the interested and or responsible parties would like perhaps we can get a discussion going. Depending on the direction I may be willing to lend a hand with coding and

[sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-06 Thread David Haslam
No doubt this topic may have been discussed in the past, but even with my limited experiences of IT, it seems to be the case that CrossWire lacks an overall Content Management System. Far too much of what we do is ad hoc and the result is that links in the wiki pages as well as the main website s