[sword-devel] Android Sword App in Market and Open Sourced

Hi All, Yesterday I released an Android app which uses the Sword C++ JNI Library that Troy has created for us. If you have an Android phone you can hit up the link here: http://market.android.com/search?q=pname:com.smurphete.android.esv The source code for it exists here: http://code.google.com/p

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hi, I must confess that to make JSword perform a little better and due to lack of xslt support on early versions of Android I tweaked jsword OSIS processing so as to use OSIS XML -> SAX processor -> HTML. I thus removed jdom and xslt. I realise there are various arguments for using jdom and xslt

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On 09/30/2010 05:24 AM, David Hollands wrote: My two pence.. feel free to ignore. * OSIS -> XSLT -> XHTML is unnecessarily complicated. I'm interested in other ways that OSIS (xml in general) can be rendered. Some browsers (maybe all modern ones by now) are able to apply CSS directly to xml

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

My two pence.. feel free to ignore. * OSIS -> XSLT -> XHTML is unnecessarily complicated. * Indeed, it is easy enough to get the raw text. If you still prefer to convert raw text to OSIS first, given an XML parser/sequencer and a DOM, the programming language (Java) is all you need to produce the

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On 08/09/10 20:38, SonWon wrote: > I would use whatever had the highest speed. During a sermon you don't > want to wait for the text to build. Another aspect is av11n - Jsword is currently not able to deal with versifications other than KJV. This is a serious issue if the application should reach

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:05:22 -0700 "Troy A. Griffitts" wrote: > A quick update on Android progress. > > o Basic Bible navigation and display are working, albeit not pretty. > o Text-to-Speech functionality is added. > o All methods from the engine are now completely wrapped to the same > swor

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

I would use whatever had the highest speed. During a sermon you don't want to wait for the text to build. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > > Am 07.09.2010 um 15:40 schrieb DM Smith: > > > Of course, if I were to do it, I'd use JSword. > > I would as well. > > > > Manfred

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Am 07.09.2010 um 15:40 schrieb DM Smith: > Of course, if I were to do it, I'd use JSword. I would as well. Manfred > > On 09/06/2010 05:41 PM, Kenneth Arnold wrote: >> This thread got rather sidetracked by the version control issue; >> personally I use git daily but usually in a centralized

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Yeah - This should definitely use JSword. Negligible difference in performance, and much easier to maintain for other developers who want to get involved, etc. The Android NDK is definitely not somewhere you want to go unless you have to. :) On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Martin Denham wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Also C++/JNI requires use of the Android NDK which only generates code for ARMv5 or ARMv7-A architectures (see http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/index.html) so not all Android devices would be supported. Regards Martin On 7 September 2010 15:40, DM Smith wrote: > Some thoughts on whether to

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Some thoughts on whether to use JSword or SWORD: SWORD will be faster than JSword, but for the most part it won't matter. The primary work of a Bible application are: a) Convert a reference into a disk read. For a chapter of references, even Psalm 119, this is so fast for both that it won't be

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

This thread got rather sidetracked by the version control issue; personally I use git daily but usually in a centralized workflow. I think between github and GUIs like TortoiseGit it's not a big burden for new users ("just remember to Push"). Also, many open-source projects I follow have switched f

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > > Am 02.09.2010 um 18:18 schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs: > >> On 2 September 2010 17:28, Matthew Talbert wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Manfred Bergmann >>> wrote: I don't know but isn't it contra productive and actually

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On 2 September 2010 18:47, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > > Am 02.09.2010 um 18:18 schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs: > >> On 2 September 2010 17:28, Matthew Talbert wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Manfred Bergmann >>> wrote: I don't know but isn't it contra productive and actually a lot

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On 2 September 2010 18:47, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > > Am 02.09.2010 um 18:18 schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs: > >> On 2 September 2010 17:28, Matthew Talbert wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Manfred Bergmann >>> wrote: I don't know but isn't it contra productive and actually a lot

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Am 02.09.2010 um 18:18 schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs: > On 2 September 2010 17:28, Matthew Talbert wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Manfred Bergmann >> wrote: >>> >>> I don't know but isn't it contra productive and actually a lot more work to >>> maintain the sources on a variety on sourc

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On 2 September 2010 17:28, Matthew Talbert wrote: > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Manfred Bergmann > wrote: >> >> I don't know but isn't it contra productive and actually a lot more work to >> maintain the sources on a variety on source control platforms? >> We end up having SWORD source trees

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > > I don't know but isn't it contra productive and actually a lot more work to > maintain the sources on a variety on source control platforms? > We end up having SWORD source trees on Github, Bitbucket and Launchpad and > eventually on an

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

I don't know but isn't it contra productive and actually a lot more work to maintain the sources on a variety on source control platforms? We end up having SWORD source trees on Github, Bitbucket and Launchpad and eventually on any other system that will come up. For all of those we need people t

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Is there someone maintaining bindings on github who doesn't have access to our SVN repository? I'm happy to add more writers. Please let me know. Troy On 09/01/2010 09:45 AM, Matthew Talbert wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Bill Burton wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> On a related note,

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Am 01.09.2010 um 18:23 schrieb DM Smith: > On 09/01/2010 12:48 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: >> Can the html rendering in JSword be simplified? > I'm not sure what you mean by simplified? Do you mean the process or the > output? I guess I meant both. > The process is basically this: > Get the ve

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On 09/01/2010 12:48 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: Can the html rendering in JSword be simplified? I'm not sure what you mean by simplified? Do you mean the process or the output? The process is basically this: Get the verses from the module. Convert them to OSIS. (For modules already in OSIS th

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Am 01.09.2010 um 17:00 schrieb Martin Denham: > Bishop is real fast but I don't know if that is all due to C++ code or if it > is not doing as much html processing/formatting as and-bible. I thought > about switching to the C++ libs but there are various h/w restrictions if you > use the ndk

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Bill Burton wrote: > > Hello, > > On a related note, could this project be hosted on http://github.com?  It > would provide much better ability to collaborate since anyone can fork, make > changes and then push them back for optional inclusion.  The built-in wiki

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You can't live without us :) Congratulations on the scores! On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Martin Denham wrote: > > > > I am on holiday at the moment so don't expect any new releases for a > while. Why am I typing e-mails while I am on holiday!!! > > btw I just want to share we just hea

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hi, Bishop is real fast but I don't know if that is all due to C++ code or if it is not doing as much html processing/formatting as and-bible. I thought about switching to the C++ libs but there are various h/w restrictions if you use the ndk and a

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hello, On a related note, could this project be hosted on http://github.com? It would provide much better ability to collaborate since anyone can fork, make changes and then push them back for optional inclusion. The built-in wiki would make it easy to publish any appropriate docs. For an examp

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hello, With the discussion on which back end to use, would it make sense to write a JSword adapter to the interface described by Troy below? This would enable the back ends to be swapped out with minimal effort (maybe even at runtime). -Bill On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wr

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Am 29.08.10 04:33, schrieb Kenneth Arnold: > scrolling, and verse number sync. Also, do you think we should replace > the backend with native libsword? That might help formatting and speed, > but I don't know how deeply it's woven into the code. The Bishop code > could be a useful example if we d

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

I think the size issue could be solved somewhat if we could get the module loading system to download and open modules from the SD card rather than having them bundled into the application's .apk Also, for what it's worth, I want to throw my vote in for using libsword via JNI. -Wes On Sun, Aug

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

One other request is to try to reduce the size of the application. It is over 8Mbytes on my Droid and is one of the largest applications on the phone (around the size of Google Maps). Other Biblereaders are significantly smaller. I would hope the size could be reduced. I don't know if

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

I agree. Quick verse selection is highly desirable. Scrolling through all the books of the Bible is far too slow. I've found that a grid selection available on some bible readers works quite fast. Also, bookmarks and/or a history of viewed verses is very useful. Having the back arrow

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Just my opinion but I am all for more speed ;) I use the reader during sermons and some speakers move from Bible text to Bible text quite fast. Having a history feature tracking each verse is useful for later review. Just my two sense. :) On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Kenneth Arnold wrote

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hi Martin and Troy, I finally got the AndBible source built; I needed to get the jsword source and also raise the memory limit for Eclipse--it thrashed and eventually crashed in the linker/dex step. There's still a dex warning that floods the Console, but it works on my Droid X. I made a few minor

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Dear Ken, Thank you for the debug. I also have had trouble with the installer and haven't had time to look into it. The history is that I build Bishop as a sort of proof of concept for the java-jni bindings for Android. I mostly work in the engine code. The jni binding code I kept in SWORD SVN

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hi Ken, You can find and-bible source and builds here: http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/ Take a look and then contact me again later if you want or you could develop Bishop if you prefer. Best regards Martin On 25 August 2010 00:01, Kenneth Arnold wrote: > I just got an Android phone, and

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

I just got an Android phone, and after seeing the state of Bible software currently available, I'm excited about helping develop a good SWORD-powered Bible reader for it. I installed Troy's bishop2.apk and tried to download a module... fail (logcat at end of message). So I went looking for the code

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hi Troy, Apologies, I was a bit confused regarding the different projects. The above was my first post to *Sword forums. I incorrectly thought that JSword, Sword and other Crosswire forums would be worked on by the same people. I have now joined the JSword-dev list which I had not spotted befor

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Martin, Great news on your success of getting JSword to build on Android. I'm sure the JSword mailing list would be interested to hear about your success! I'm not sure about the speed. I will add a primitive search box to my test app and let you know how long a complete search of the KJV (a hea

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

I have posted a new build of Bishop and libsword.so built with r4 of the NDK with debug support, so you can attach to it with ndk-gdb if necessary. I had better luck with this build connecting and downloading Bibles from remote repositories. http://crosswire.org/~scribe/bishop2.apk 06/09/201

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

I would be glad to provide input for the user interface. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:28 AM, mjdenham wrote: > > Hi Troy, > > I just thought I would mention that I have also been playing around with > Android. > > I have spent the last few weeks creating a prototype bible viewer > application for A

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hi Troy, I just thought I would mention that I have also been playing around with Android. I have spent the last few weeks creating a prototype bible viewer application for Android, but I just noticed Troy's messages in this forum. I took a slightly different technical approach to you and I don

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

I could help with user interface design and testing but would need someone who could code. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Kermit Kiser wrote: > A couple weeks ago Troy posted this message: > - > > Dear Vitaliy, > > The SWORD library has been port

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

A couple weeks ago Troy posted this message: - Dear Vitaliy, The SWORD library has been ported to Android with Java wrapper classes via the NDK. Instructions for building can be found in the trunk of our svn repository under bindings/java-jni/REA

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Any more progress on the Android Bible Reader? On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > There is now a preliminary Android NDK / Java binding available in SVN. > This is very very early and should just be considered a proof of concept. > > There is a package available to show

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Dobrik wrote: > > Hello all, > > I hope I am at the right place to enquire if anyone is working on this > project and if there is any progress made on it since last October? > As many new phone came out recently running Android 2 it would be great to > have it available on ther

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ast October? > As many new phone came out recently running Android 2 it would be > great to have it available on there too. > > Thanks, > > joey d. > <>< > > > Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD > > Troy A. Griffitts > Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:09:21 -0700 >

[sword-devel] Android SWORD

Hello all, I hope I am at the right place to enquire if anyone is working on this project and if there is any progress made on it since last October? As many new phone came out recently running Android 2 it would be great to have it available on there too. Thanks, joey d. <>< Re: [sw

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Just found this via Google. How to install fonts in Android http://code.google.com/p/softkeyboard/wiki/InstallHebrewFonts http://code.google.com/p/softkeyboard/wiki/InstallHebrewFonts Rooting an unrooted device will revoke your warranty! - btw. I haven't tried Hebrew or Greek yet, t

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 01:05:22AM -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > A quick update on Android progress. I read this morning that Nook, an ebook running Android is in pre-order state: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/features/ US only and probably not really open :( -- Sébastien Koechlin __

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

A quick update on Android progress. o Basic Bible navigation and display are working, albeit not pretty. o Text-to-Speech functionality is added. o All methods from the engine are now completely wrapped to the same swordorb.idl interface we use for SWORDWeb's Java<-CORBA->C++ bridge, so a full-

Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

Great news! I'll be getting an android phone within the month and would love to help out! Thanks for your work Troy! Cheers, David On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > There is now a preliminary Android NDK / Java binding available in SVN. > This is very very early and

[sword-devel] Android SWORD

There is now a preliminary Android NDK / Java binding available in SVN. This is very very early and should just be considered a proof of concept. There is a package available to show things working, but doesn't really do much: http://crosswire.org/~scribe/bishop.apk the JNI libsword.so should b