Re: [sword-devel] Scripture Tools for Every Person

2013-07-24 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 24 Jul 2013, at 21:11, Chris Burrell wrote: > I'm delighted to announce that the Beta version of STEP… Might that not confuse people who know about STEP as a format for electronic Bibles? Regards, Trevor. <>< Re: deemed! ___ sword-devel mailin

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 4 Jul 2013, at 14:01, Chris Little wrote: > Book ordering differences are a trivial case, already handled by > versification system definitions. E.g. the German and Luther versification > systems differ, in the NT, only in book order. If you query Heb-Rev in > German, you'll get the content

Re: [sword-devel] After SWORD v1.7 gets released?

2013-06-14 Thread Trevor Jenkins
ript, because currently the Sword engine > doesn't support the full OSIS spec that the Python script outputs. The Python > script produces stuff that the Sword Engine can't parse (presumably?) > > > On 14 June 2013 18:24, Trevor Jenkins wrote: > On 14 Jun 2013, at 18:18,

Re: [sword-devel] After SWORD v1.7 gets released?

2013-06-14 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 14 Jun 2013, at 18:18, David Haslam wrote: > Better module creation tools (although desirable) are "off topic" for this > thread. > > My question was about what should be in the development roadmap for the > SWORD engine (API) as new/enhanced features for subsequent releases. Except your que

Re: [sword-devel] After SWORD v1.7 gets released?

2013-06-14 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 14 Jun 2013, at 15:49, Dan Blake wrote: > +1 for module creation tool (with GUI). > > On 6/14/2013 9:03 AM, Pola Edward wrote: >> I think we also need to focus in module creation tool (with GUI) to >> encourage more people to create modules >> Also some more documentations and tutorials will

Re: [sword-devel] Sword support of indents and line breaks

2013-04-14 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 14 Apr 2013, at 13:11, Arthur Bolstad wrote: > I'm sure if you ask your translators, they will tell you that the spaces > between words mean something! Word boundaries tell you how intonation affects > the gathering of syllables for example: blackbird vs black bird is spoken > differently

Re: [sword-devel] Sword support of indents and line breaks

2013-04-13 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 13 Apr 2013, at 11:33, John Austin wrote: > It has been demonstrated through such comprehension testing, that indeed > indents are important to achieving the best comprehension. I would want to see that "demonstration". There are more factors to comprehension of printed text than how paragr

Re: [sword-devel] bindings/objc build broken

2013-01-24 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 23 Jan 2013, at 22:21, Jeff Barnes wrote: > I downloaded fink to get gcc. I read all the blogs, etc. that said gcc > doesn't come with Xcode anymore. Did I misread something? The gcc compiler is no longer shipped with Xcode. Instead it comes with the LLVM project's reworking of it. http://

Re: [sword-devel] sword -> epub ?

2012-12-07 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 7 Dec 2012, at 17:02, David Haslam wrote: > This open source ePub editor may be of interest in the context of the > original question. > > http://code.google.com/p/sigil/ I'll second that recommendation. Sigil is a good tool for "tweaking" unencrypted ePub files. It has a reasonable preview

Re: [sword-devel] sword -> epub ?

2012-12-04 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 4 Dec 2012, at 19:08, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > is there a solution to convert a sword Bible into a readable epub file? Would > be cool to have it my preferred Sword modules on my ebook reader. Ignoring copyright issues, a sword-to-epub convertor could probably be written but you really hav

Re: [sword-devel] Forum spam

2011-09-26 Thread Trevor Jenkins
Is there something like SpamAssassin's bayesian filter feature that could be utilised in the forum to idenify spam posts? If not SA then maybe one of the equivalent tools could be substituted. Regards, Trevor. <>< Re: deemed! Sent from my iPad On 26 Sep 2011, at 18:56, Manfred Bergmann wrote

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-14 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > b) How does an end user refomat a specific citation from obtained from > > Sword converted to another format? > > Absolutely any and every open source bibliographic software can handle > BibTeX - at least as import format, if not as native format.

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-13 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Modules really should have bibtex or something similar in their conf > file. This would improve the use of our library for academic purposes. Some design questions for you. (Always better to fix bug in design than in the debug or production phase. S

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-12 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Greg Hellings wrote: > Peter's was not an ad hominem argument, but rather a proposal that the > list ignore someone with a distinct history of trolling. If by "trolling" you mean challenging ill-considered ideas by over eager developers, for example, adding overly complex fo

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-12 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > > Von: Peter von Kaehne > > > I therefore consider you a user and not a particularly friendly one. > > s/user/bystander/ > > One should never send serious emails at 2 am. I may be critical and argumentative (and so what if I am) but at least I do

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-11 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Greg Hellings wrote: > > No no no. That way leaves to inconsistencies and corruption. Apply 3NF and > > 4NF normalisation to this data. If the bibliographic data is to be there > > put it there only once and then have some API layer to extract and present > > it in what ever

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-11 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Greg Hellings wrote: > > While I'd have no quibble with bibliographic data being recorded in .conf > > files it should be there in a neutral form and specific functions written > > to produce it in the users required/requested format. > > Alternatively every desired format co

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-11 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Daniel Owens wrote: > As a PhD student, I personally think this would be very helpful. Many > different bibliographic database programs can import BibTeX data, so it > makes getting information into programs like Zotero (a Firefox extension > that is the most popular choice a

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-11 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Modules really should have bibtex or something similar in their conf > file. This would improve the use of our library for academic purposes. I don't understand this. First, I don't understand why a system's internal file format needs to be changed

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-30 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM, DM Smith wrote: > > ROFL is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this > > is one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is a title. > > Note that IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari are not con

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings wrote: > And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best > tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some > semantic dream world of markup. Um, strictly speaking a markup scheme (such as ThML) is divorced

[sword-devel] Admin question was Re: YouVersion application for facebook

2010-11-17 Thread Trevor Jenkins
The other day we had an issue with emails being forwarded from another list. In the past we have had issues with gmane.org archiving the list without permission. Today I saw this appended to an email sent here > View this message in context: > http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/YouVersion-appl

Re: [sword-devel] YouVersion application for facebook

2010-11-13 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, David Haslam wrote: > This message is not intended to be an advert, merely to illustrate what > other agencies are doing to engage people with Scripture. > > There is a now a http://www.facebook.com/YouVersion YouVersion > application for facebook. > > What can we learn from

Re: [sword-devel] Crossreferences

2010-08-16 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > Other sources of cross-references: > The TSK has a fairly rich and detailed set of cross-references, ... Hardly the most rigorous academic source. Regards, Trevor <>< Re: deemed! ___ sword-devel mailing

Re: [sword-devel] Crossreferences

2010-08-16 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Trevor Jenkins writes: > > There are cross reference lists produced by SIL/Wycliffe and UBS that are > > based on sound linguistic theory. However, they might not be in public > > domain. > > Can you offer a URL for where

Re: [sword-devel] Crossreferences

2010-08-16 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Costas Stergiu of "The Word" has kindly provided a list of about 20.000 > crossreferences stripped out of a 16th or 17th century Statenvertelling. > > Pooyan Mehrshahi, a Bible translator of the Trinitarian Bible Society, > has started checking this

Re: [sword-devel] www.crosswire.org down?

2010-04-24 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010, Teus Benschop wrote: > Here's the tracepath: Based on that I'd say QWest's routers are borked. Regards, Trevor <>< Re: deemed! ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sw

Re: [sword-devel] www.crosswire.org down?

2010-04-24 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010, David Haslam wrote: > It is sometimes blacklisted by the Great Firewall of China. But why would that affect someone trying to access the website from southern Africa? I know network routing is not geographical or based on crow-flight distances or economic cost or indeed sens

Re: [sword-devel] Dynamic Content

2010-04-15 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Trevor Jenkins writes: > > The Sword Engine might be a good candidate for this tool but only if > > content can be entered dynamically. > > The engine provides for user-created content, ... I think "user-created" and

[sword-devel] Dynamic Content

2010-04-15 Thread Trevor Jenkins
I should probably know the answer after all the years of being a member to this list but... It appears to me that much (all?) of the functionality of the sword engine and user-interfaces are geared up to essentially re-display of static content. Over on an other theological discussion email list s

Re: [sword-devel] Open Collaborative Bible Translation

2010-04-10 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Though I appreciate the importance and historical value of KJV as much > as the next guy, the strictly emotional attachment of so many to KJV > (which is to say, not on the basis of quality of its scholarship) is a > huge stumbling block to bearing wi

Re: [sword-devel] Open Collaborative Bible Translation(was RE: Open Japanese Collaborative Bible Translation)

2010-04-10 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, David Haslam wrote: Discussion of Bible translations are probably better conducted on a mailing list devoted to that topic. > Yet reason (a) is often misunderstood. The KJV was written in "Biblical > English", in which pronouns such as Thou, Thee, and the related verb > conj

Re: [sword-devel] Open source German Volxbibel

2008-12-28 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008, Tonny Kohar wrote: > Sorry if it is seems like dumb questions, what is the difference > between translation vs paraphrases ? The WijiPedia entry on Paraphrase has a useful but non-technical explanaiton of the concept, However, many critics of Bible translations use an entir

Re: [sword-devel] Purge SwordReader

2008-07-21 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, David Haslam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone seen and used http://PortableApps.com/ PortableApps.com ? I have a USB flash memory stick with PortableApps on it for those occasions when I visit unenlightened clients (i.e. they bought the Microsoft marketing pitch). Th

Re: [sword-devel] SwordReader Feature List

2008-07-19 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008, Albert L. Sites, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion, we should simply change the color between OT and NT for now. > A blind person using something to direct them to the book is going to be in > the same position as the color blind person. They will need to know whe

Re: [sword-devel] GerNEU

2008-07-19 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008, Manfred Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used it with NeoOffice which is a native OpenOffice Java port for > Mac. Until OOo 3.0 there was no native Aqua version of OOo for Mac, > only X11 versions. There's the OOo 3.0 Beta for Mac with its Aqua interface. Fairly stable

Re: [sword-devel] Den Norsk Bibelen - possible digitization artefacts (-)

2008-07-12 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, David Haslam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for speedy response, Trevor. Not bad for someone suffering New York to London jetlag, eh. ;-) > Just to clarify my observation, the tokens were not plain hyphens, but a > "hyphen wrapped within parentheses". i.e. if I wrap th

Re: [sword-devel] Den Norsk Bibelen - possible digitization artefacts (-)

2008-07-12 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, David Haslam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have just discovered that there are 1286 occurrences of the token (-) in > the text of the Norwegian Bible module Den Norsk Bibelen. That might be correct. I don't have a copy of this translation; Norwegian is not one of my language

Re: [sword-devel] Greenstone .... and the Hawaiian Bible

2008-04-18 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... Do we have any clue which edition was used to > produce the (machine-readable) text? ... Can't say what text edition they are using but isn't Greenstone based on the mg text retrievel system developed by Witten, Moffat and Bell as

Re: [sword-devel] English Bible Versions

2008-03-26 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Troy A. Griffitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve DeRose has started to compile a comprehensive list of English > Bible. If anyone has time to review and comment, it would be most > appreciated: First comment is that Steve DeRose is confusing paraphrase with idiomatic tra

Re: [sword-devel] French Darby (Public Domain?)

2008-01-22 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, John H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are right that the original KJV is not in use anymore. A side > note to this is the obvious effect it has on the KJV only debate, as > no one really uses the KJV anymore(the true one). And then again which true one; for weren't there

Re: [sword-devel] Quick'n'dirty ESV module available!

2006-05-03 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Jeff Needle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PMFJI, but when I bought my ESV, I received a CD with the Bible that had the > text of the ESV and the KJV, in parallel fashion. > > Didn't everyone get this CD? Only if you purchased the North American edition. The British (Anglicised)

Re: [sword-devel] Re:Chapter translations (Robin Randall)

2005-10-18 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is actually a localization issue. I can't speak for UK users, who > might need something else, but as a native speaker of Standard American > English, I would say this should be changed to "Revelation". The short form of Revelati

Re: [sword-devel] STEP Specification

2005-01-20 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Graeme Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a quick trawl around my hard drive > http://www.thenunns.f2s.com/STEP%201.1.doc > I will leave it up for the next couple of days if you want to grab a > copy. Thanks already grabbed it (and the associated documents) by follow

[sword-devel] STEP Specification

2005-01-20 Thread Trevor Jenkins
I went looking for the STEP specification but sadly the link on the Developer's Quick Start page http://crosswire.org/sword/develop/index.jsp gave me a "Not Found" page instead. The link is resolving to http://www.crosswire.org/bsisg/ A Google search turns up some postings to this or other lists a

Re: [sword-devel] STEP status

2004-08-23 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Graeme Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... a STEP reader ... I went looking for the STEP specificaiton the other day. When I last wanted to read them they were available in some sub-directory of xyzzy.crosswire.org but no longer it seems. Have they migrated somewhere else?

Re: [sword-devel] HELP WANTED -- OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE

2003-11-24 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Don A. Elbourne Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't use MS Word. What exactly do these macros do? I wonder if it would > be better to do something in OpenOffice.org that would do the same thing. > Migrating to OOo would save a lot of money in the long run. I agree that m

Re: [sword-devel] Access violations

2003-07-20 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Darin Duphorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a Mac OS X user, and yes Word is available on Mac, but I don't > have it, and can't justify the . I am interested in how you are > reading .doc files on Mac OS X if you can't afford MS Office. I'm not an Mac OS X user but

Re: [sword-devel] good news

2003-02-02 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like it was slightly fewer than actually 99, since that counts a > number of TLDs that are essentially the US (like .com, .org, .us, .mil, > .arpa, etc.). Common mistake; but some of us with .com TLDs are NOT in the US. And many

Re: ESV was Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and Step

2003-01-13 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Daniel Glassey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From http://www.gnpcb.org/page/esv_faq/ > Is there an electronic edition? What about the free CD-ROM? >Every classic reference and thinline edition comes with the option of >receiving a CD-ROM with the complete text of the B

Re: [sword-devel] Where is this list archived?

2002-09-13 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Don A. Elbourne Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.mail-archive.com/sword-devel%40crosswire.org/ Great. You mean I could delete some of the 18Mb of Sword messages I have saved on my system? (I have messages going back to Nov 2000.) Regards, Trevor British Sign Lan

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since the owner of this list does not wish to discuss such issues, I > will withdraw my name from the mailing list. Isn't today some kind of public holiday in the US? Perhaps he's taking a well-earned rest from working on Sw

Re: [sword-devel] NIV electronic licencing

2002-07-09 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Greg Marine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just my two cents on licensing... > > I'm so frustrated by the fact that "God's Word" is licensed at all. I > understand that money had to be involved with the translating/publishing > process, but the fact texts like NIV is "licensed"

Re: [sword-devel] Faster searching wanted

2002-04-02 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, I'll try to find out what searching code is out there that > could be used. That doesn't necessarily mean I will implement it - > not really my area. I did a similar search recently. The best I could find was ht://dig (http://www.ht

Re: [sword-devel] Faster searching wanted

2002-03-30 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Nathan Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sword seems pretty slow to execute searches. I'm kind of wondering > how it's indexed. > > Unfortunately I don't have a lot of technical expertise on B-trees > and stuff to optimize searching. ... > Is any work being done on this?

Re: [sword-devel] European sword meet

2002-03-21 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Daniel Glassey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, With Troy coming over to Europe, it seems like a good idea to have > a meet of anyone interested. Martin is coming over to Cambridge from > Thur 18th April -> Mon 22nd and Troy should be here from 19->23 ... I'm already here. C

Re: [sword-devel] Why Sword?

2002-02-11 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 11 Feb 2002, David White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 02:26, Trevor Jenkins wrote: > > > For those who don't know or have forgotten I proposed an inverted file > > search system. Every word to be indexed and its position recorded. The >

Re: [sword-devel] Why Sword?

2002-02-10 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Joachim Ansorg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (1) Searching in Sword is slow. > > Yes, I think this is right. Sadly Trevor has not time (or whatever the reason > is) to do this, although he seemed to be the one with the most knowledge of > searching and it's optimisations. I

Re: [sword-devel] Apology (was: More Splashes)

2001-12-06 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really want to apologize for certain unkind words I wrote about a > month ago. I was completely un-Christ-like and rude in putting down > Trevor and his suggestions, and the inappropriateness of my words has > weighed on my mind a l

RE: [sword-devel] More Splashes

2001-10-27 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Why have a splash screen at all?!!!" > > Splash screens are a visual cue that the program is loading. You've missed the point. The end-user should not have to be told that the program is loading at all. Only the minimum amout of i

Re: [sword-devel] More Splashes

2001-10-27 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, David Trotz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Why have a splash screen at all?!!!" Whenever I see a splash screen on a > > Apple Mac or a Windows PC I think --- bloated code. > > Trevor although you are entitled to your opinion, I think there is something > you might of forgott

Re: [sword-devel] More Splashes

2001-10-25 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Ford J. Shortland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know I dont put much into this, but is there or are you able to make a > splash screen for linux, I've been watching the thread on these splash screens for a while now. The mention of linux above has caught my attention :-) in

Re: [sword-devel] XML idea: modular spec

2001-10-12 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, David Burry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Keep in mind throughout my comments below tht I was a member of the ISO committee that developed SGML.] > I've been thinking for a long time about how to provide a reasonable > storage/index mechanism, and still give the end user inter