In my opinion Chinese should be considered as if every
character were a separate independant word, for the
purposes of indexing for quick searching. Then if you can
also search for exact phrases and a phrase search is the
"default operator" when you specify nothing between the
words, then that bec
Ok, the translation for those of you who "just want to search" is: it's
a front end app encoding issue, if it's broken in your favorite app then
that app needs to be fixed! (the way to fix it is by using UTF-8 etc,
but that's more than you need to know if you're not a coder... This is a
coder lis
> > Of course if a given font has glyphs for all characters in all
> > blocks then you'd only need one font for everything in that
> > case (I think that was what was originally meant), but you're
> > not restricted to that behavior.
>
> Except that this isn't possible. The greatest number of cod
Right... Unicode relieves you from having to mark up text with different
font names in a funky non-portable way, but it does not necessarily mean
that a given unicode renderer only uses one font when displayed... Just
gives it a standard cross-platform portable way of choosing fonts and
glyphs by
ICU has good word splitting infrastructure set up, does its rules work
well for Thai?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Korten
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [sword-devel] Search for word
Also perhaps a preference that only does one line of tabs but adds
little arrows at the right and left ends of the tabs, to signify that
more tabs will scroll out when you click on the arrows? I've seen that
for managing large numbers of tabs in several apps now... This should
not be in place of
One possible idea for collapsing is to arrange the versions as submenus
under languages (so that the versions for only one language show at once)...
Another idea is to use a pulldown menu... or a combination of the two,
etc... It all depends on many factors as to what method works best...
Dave
I was noticing it's a very small percentage of traffic... so it couldn't
have been modules and other large files... ;o)
Dave
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From: "Martin Gruner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] good news
An index/concordance is not a "derivative work" because it's completely
automated to create it, in the words of the URL below "purely mechanical
task with no element of editorial selection" therefore not copyrightable as
a separate derivative work... however... because it's purely mechanical and
no
I just checked out the KJV2003 project and it looks really awesome! Are
there any plans to link other versions and languages in a similar manner? I
don't know any Greek but I'd be more than happy to volunteer to link other
English versions to KJV/Greek linkages to get the same effect in those
ver
This is an awesome vision for OSIS, one format that you can buy anything in
directly from the copyright holder or from a reseller, and every bible
software out there reading it or importing from it
Dave
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From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday,
itments to other projects. I think a commited effort
> to research and contact the decision-making person at more organizations
> is the needed ingredient. Jonathan has taken on this role and has made
> a great initial effort.
>
>
> David Burry wrote:
> > I don't think
I don't think the main issue is open vs closed source (well to some it may
be) but I think the main issue for most copyright holders that distrust
sword is what the heck are the locked modules FOR if they're not legal?
If they're not legal, dump them until permission is granted so that they AR
Awesome! Poor search capability and speed is the primary reason I've been
only lurking on this list too for so long instead of contributing. I don't
have the C experience to improve that very much easily, and don't have the
time to dive in and learn at the moment to invent better searching for s
How about:
[internalname]
Name=full name e.g. New King James Version
Abbreviation=short name e.g. NKJV
About=copyright and long description
Note that abbreviation may be the same as the internalname in many cases
currently, but we could probably allow the full Unicode character set
whereas the i
Aren't fonts normally supposed to display a small square box when there's no
character to display? Just to prevent this very kind of confusion where you
think there's something wrong with your display altogether when the whole
screen is blank?
Dave
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From: "Christian
I had thought that mac newlines were '\r' not '\n\r' either I have made
a mistake or you have... (not that it's that important, just that details
like this can be problematic if misunderstood) ;o)
Dave
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTEC
I'm all for someone forming a separate for-profit company (or joining with an existing
one) that sells copyrighted royalty-laden sword modules... of course the base of sword
would still be for free and so would all the freely distributable modules, only the
copyrighted modules that must have ro
IE does not render ZWSP properly, it gives it about double or triple width,
at least last time I checked that's the way it was.
You don't want to separate every 2 "letters" you want to separate every
single "letter" in chinese, i.e. meaning every one character is a separate
word. The idea of com
- Original Message -
> * When people risk a lot to bring bibles into China, sword CD is a good
> alternative. Yes, China is not as rich as the west yet, but don't
> underestimate the sheer number of city/educated people who have access to
> computers.
Yes, I agree with that.
> * To re
People, please take this issue of your personal beliefs offline to a private
conversation this is primarily a software development list, not a
belief bashing (nor even a belief discovery) list.
There is such a thing as a self-fulfilling prophecy... for instance, I
prophesy that if I'm a big
that one is my favorite at
the moment due to its efficiency... ;o)
Dave
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From: "David Burry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] We need XML parser
> At 11:35 PM 6/5/2
At 11:35 PM 6/5/2002 -0700, Chris Little wrote:
> So... we will never use a full DOM parser because we don't need the full
> capabilities of a DOM parser. It would, at times, be nice, but it's not
> worth the increase in binary size
This is a good point regarding the weight. Some of them are
If you restrict the order, it's not XML, please don't call it XML if it's
not really, it will just confuse people. If you want to use XML I suggest
using an existing XML parsing library rather than re-inventing the wheel.
Dave
At 10:22 AM 6/6/2002 +0600, Victor Porton wrote:
>Well, you haven'
The order of attributes is not significant in XML, so your examples should
be equivalent. Regardless things shouldn't ever crash even if it did get
unacceptable data, it should display or log or return an error message and
go on or quit, which ever makes sense for the situation. If you want t
In most open source projects I've seen, people primarily write free code because they
want to use it, the fact that others may (or may not) find it useful too is secondary.
It seems to be a natural thing that open source in general fosters among the selfish
human race. It's not as bad here as
Tux is the little linux penguin dude...
Dave
mcp wrote:
> who is Tux?
>
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:05:31 -0600 "Don A. Elbourne Jr." wrote:
>
> > You know what I always thought would be cool? I would love to see a
> > graphic
> > with Tux reading a Bible. :)
> >
> > Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> > http:/
every news reader I've ever tried sucks, can someone recommend a good news
reader? or can we move it to an email list?
Dave
At 05:48 AM 12/22/2001 -0500, Tim Hawes wrote:
>I think these fireside chats are great, but I would much rather see them
>on the news server.
I believe he's just saying that it is called "stealing intellectual
property" only because the law of the land says it is, not because the
Bible says it is. The moral Biblical laws are immutable and unchangeable
principles, laws of the land are not and can be easily changed.
Therefore there is
Show me that floppy or CD, whose logo and copyright are on it? Render unto them the
things that are theirs, and unto God the things that are God's.
This was unpopular in Christ's day too, which is why He didn't further explain, just
let people mull over it. But I'm going to explain, so please
At 08:26 PM 12/21/2001 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Who said anything about mixing styles? The main point is choosing styles.
which can already be done by choosing versions... however, having something
that lets you more easily compare how certain phrases can be translated in
a side-by-side
At 09:13 AM 12/20/2001 -0800, John Gardner wrote:
>No matter how often or how long or violently
>you shake a bucket of bolts you'll NEVER get a car!
In fact, the longer you shake them the _less_ chance you have of ever
getting a car, because they will grind themselves to powder if they don't
be
At 11:16 AM 12/20/2001 +1100, Chris wrote:
>>However, GUIs have a serious drawback. They require a warm body to
>>operate them. How does this relate to Sword?
>I thought you were going to say that you want to automate your bible reading so that
>you don't have to do it yourself!
you mean like
I like the idea of having a tagged Bible, where several different kinds of
translation are there and the end user could selectively show or hide the
different kinds of translation they want in different situations. It would
be an excellent study tool. True some people wouldn't like it but hey
I think many of you guys who are participating in this argument are missing the spirit
of the Gospel... True, you **CAN** shell out a million bucks and make a new free
translation if you have trust in God, since even if you don't have the money God can
and definitely will provide if He has call
Many Java and C compilers are not freely distributable in source form
either, yet we support them... Okay, that's not the same thing, but it
seems we're in the business of spreading the Gospel of Christ not
necessarily the Gospel of Open Source. My point is open source in all its
glory is st
Yes, internally, that's one way to do it, but there could be an API that lets it
behave differently as one cohesive unit.
Dave
At 11:50 AM 12/6/2001 +1100, Chris wrote:
>Aren't we just talking about a Map containing List?
>
>David Burry wrote:
>
>>At 01:5
For instance, a next function that gives you the next key/val pair normally could give
you the same key again with the next val in the list if you're in multi valued val.
Dave
At 11:50 AM 12/6/2001 +1100, Chris wrote:
>Aren't we just talking about a Map containing List?
>
&g
At 01:55 PM 12/5/2001 -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>jsword currently requires the jgl container api. The current, standard
>java container library is not extensive enough to contain a multimap
>equivelant of the c++ stl. The primary difference between a map and
>multimap is that a mul
Great idea, if enough people donate to maintain the service then all those
locked modules could be sold at the royalty cost, essentially as free as it
gets. This can only happen if some knowledgeable people are willing to
actually make it happen and maintain it though.
Dave
At 01:54 PM 12/2
Trevor's right, programs should simply load in less time than it takes to
cue the user that they're loading. In general, there are ways of making a
lot of initialization info cached on disk anyway, and most other
initialization could happen in the background _after_ the interface is
brought u
agreed!
Dave
At 10:18 PM 10/25/2001 -0500, David Overcash wrote:
>THAT'S PERFECT USE IT!!!
>
>I think I will invent a word just to describe that, lets call it UTF Splash,
>in honor of UTF8 and Splash Screens
>
>-Dave Overcash
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:
I liked 18 more precisely because the background was less distracting. The
background is cleaner and lighter and less recognizable and less busy
looking which means you can _see_ the foreground text, which should be the
main object of this whole thing anyway. I do also like the textures of 14
DD! very nice batch! I can't make up my mind, I like them all, except #17 has
the "for windows" thing too close to the dark border... okay, if I have to vote, maybe
#18... ;o)
Dave
At 05:40 PM 10/24/2001 -0500, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
>Hi everyone,
> I've updated the Splash Screen page
Um, this could just be the image in the middle of the splash screen, the rest (version
number and hot-linked-if-possible url) could be below it or whatever in the window.
Dave
At 04:07 PM 10/24/2001 -0500, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
>Hi David,
>> If we do a version number I would want it to be dy
Actually, the placement doesn't matter to me as much as being able to read
it, in other words, there needs to be enough contrast between "the sword
project for windows" foreground text and the background text so that the
foreground text stands out. I don't mean to be overly critical, you're
d
but it sure does shine in speed and ve!
rsatility like no other. I've been looking for some more efficient hashing algorithms
for the B+Tree, it has the potential of shrinking my index down to just a couple
megs...
Dave
At 01:02 PM 10/23/2001 -0500, Jesse Jacobsen wrote:
>On 10/23/01,
At 09:42 PM 10/22/2001 -0500, David J. Orme wrote:
>David Burry wrote:
>>I'm not sure about punctuation, I need to review his documentation
>>first. I've done work on this kind of inverted index before and I'm
>>itchin to see how he did that part! ;o) I&#x
ahh blame the compression no really I figured it was something simple
like that ;o)
Dave
At 08:38 PM 10/22/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Dave,
> All of them should have the same contrast, since they are based on the
> same
>background (from BibleTime, of course), but perhaps #4 was adversl
#4 and #2 have my votes, except it seems almost like #4 has more contrast in the
background than the other top ones, which is undesirable IMO, more washed out is
better because that would be less distracting, doesn't even need to be readable IMO.
Dave
At 07:44 PM 10/22/2001 -0500, Don A. Elbo
At 10:13 AM 10/22/2001 -0700, Chris Little wrote:
>Would that be possible for a RE that involved crossing a word boundary?
>Something like /\/, for example. I suppose you could split
>up the RE itself by word boundaries, collecting a list of words that
>match /\/ and words that match /\<\w+d\>/,
At 05:56 PM 10/20/2001 -0500, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> Yeah, that makes sense. What I meant with Perl was embedding a Perl script
>into the code via an SSI exec call, but that is still less efficent then
>directly placing the code in the same file.
Actually if the Perl is all mod_perl-ized i
Depending on the format, I would expect parsing the other formats to be more complex
for at least some of them...
Dave
At 05:11 PM 10/15/2001 -0500, Don A. Elbourne Jr. wrote:
>Chris,
>
>This is very cool. the only thing that would make it even cooler is if it
>could also do the conversion the
Yes, I believe the 1923 date is to be certain it has passed every expiration without a
ton of research and possible consequences if the research isn't done well enough,
again that's only for USA law not elsewhere.
Dave
At 02:59 PM 10/15/2001 -0500, Jesse Jacobsen wrote:
>Or
>maybe you mean the
At 08:49 AM 10/12/2001 +, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, David Burry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[Keep in mind throughout my comments below tht I was a member of the ISO
>committee that developed SGML.]
okayyy... I take it you're a big fan of SGM
By the way, it has occurred to me in re-reading Patrick's page that he
probably said the same thing I just did, only he said so much in such a way
it's hard to absorb ;o)
Dave
At 11:55 PM 10/11/2001 -0700, David Burry wrote:
>I've been thinking for a long time abou
I've been thinking for a long time about how to provide a reasonable
storage/index mechanism, and still give the end user interface designer
access to the complete the Bible in a variety of XML ways depending on the
needs of the application. There has been previous discussion on this list
reg
You might want to consider uploading under a temporary name, then renaming over the
existing file, that way people won't see half a file. I wonder if there are any
FTP servers (or clients) that will do that for you for everything, seems like such a
common thing... hmmm ;o)
Dave
At 01
I never even noticed... I've been getting up to a dozen of these kinds of viruses
daily for months ever since SirCam started, and therefore I've set up unix procmail
filters on all my email accounts so my windoze machines never see any executable
attachments any more. Send me a .exe/.com/.pif/
be defined, or all we've done is generally extend XML
>methodologies to all domains (which isn't a bad thing either).
>
> -Troy.
>
>
>
>David Burry wrote:
> >
> > okey dokey...
> >
> > I kind of already mentioned this idea before, but he
okey dokey...
I kind of already mentioned this idea before, but here're some more detailed thoughts
and explanations on it:
XML is ideally suited to represent hierarchical slices of very complex data for
exchange with other programs or display engines etc, but not necessarily to
efficiently
Regarding this supposed lesbian NIV translator thing...
Has anyone played the game called "telephone" as a kid? By the time this kind of
thing gets to me and I pass it on, it's "I (1st hand) read that a person's (2nd hand,
since that person actually wrote it) father's (3th hand) friend's (4t
ce and something for the authors of a Sword version to
>emulate.
>
>--Chris
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Burry
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:26 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
&
ahh, sorry, I meant that to be a private reply only, I'm not in the habit
of advertising non-sword stuff on the list, honest injun ;o)
Dave
At 01:26 PM 8/23/2001 -0700, David Burry wrote:
>You mean like this?
>
>http://beaver.dburry.com/bible/devel/
>
>I am the author o
You mean like this?
http://beaver.dburry.com/bible/devel/
I am the author of that web interface...
Dave
At 01:05 PM 8/23/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Is anyone out there interested in working on a Web based Bible
>interface? Unlike the search-type stuff currently available, this would
>be intend
Interesting discussion. There is another way to do multiple
hierarchies: Instead of trying to think of the best way to store our data
in XML that will be a catch all for every possible hierarchy, we could have
our own database structure that isn't XML, ideally optimized more for space
and/or
Whether or not you enable the feature up front or not, it would be a good idea to at
least pick a forum package that allows you to easily moderate only the first post if
it becomes necessary due to spam or concerted attacks etc. Not all software packages
have this functionality of moderating i
Plain "OpenSword" can still be referred to as the OpenSword Bible software
(lowercase T and S), after all, that's what it is, Bible
software! ;o) I'm not sure why it needs to be nailed down closer than
that unless you're needing it for legal documents or something ;o)
Dave
At 08:52 PM 7/25/
If you ask and they say yes, that's nice. If you ask and they say no and
you do it anyway only a little differently, you're asking for trouble
still. Just because something might be legal doesn't mean that in today's
litigious society you can't lose your shirt on legal fees because someone
f
OpenSword is good, especially since it's already known among users as Sword
or The Sword so it's not a completely different name... Just have to
change all references, documentation, window titles, etc, consistently to
OpenSword...
Dave
At 01:48 AM 7/17/2001 -0400, n8 wrote:
>I haven't spoke
I think it's a good idea to have "starter bundles" that have everything people need to
get up and running with KJV, Strongs, and maybe a commentary. As long as it's easy to
install a lot of people should go for this to install on a new machine (i.e. just
click on the installer on windoze and r
I used to do mine by going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and
installing the language packs from there, before the auto update thing came
on the scene...
Dave
At 11:41 PM 7/11/2001 -0700, Chris Little wrote:
>I don't know how to install localized fonts with IE. I got mine installed
>
quot;
>Subject: Re: Complete Unicode font
>
>David Burry wrote:
>>Are there any free-to-distribute _complete_ Unicode fonts? I mean complete
>>as of Unicode 3.0.
>
>The most complete fonts I know are:
>* Arial Unicode MS, ~ 51k glyphs, covers pretty much all of Unicod
At 03:26 PM 6/17/2001 +0200, Joachim Ansorg wrote:
>Hello David!
>
>Are you emplyoed by Adobe?
Yes.
> Some time ago I downloaded an unicode font from
>Adobe, this font worked very well with the chinese CHIGU module.
I believe they have several fonts that compose of glyphs for the entire
Basic
I know Adobe has invested considerably in creating many complete Unicode
fonts, not sure if any are free but I could check... even if not free it
may be remotely possible for someone to pay for and donate an unlimited
font license to be distributed with a free product or some such special
deal
es for all the
>conversions they support will be a piece of cake.
>
>--Chris
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-sword-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Burry
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:36 AM
> > To:
Most higher level languages have some sort of hash or associative array
built in, perhaps there are a few libraries somewhere for C to do this even
more efficiently since all keys and values are the same length (two bytes)
from UCS16 to SJIS? I assume a simple calculation and 14k array will wo
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