Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

Le 06/01/2018 à 21:19, David Haslam a écrit : > Now that you understand that, does this change anything regarding the > proposed three new catholic lit av11ns ? > > No because for the Catholic we have not to do a "compromise" of different version, all version are the same. For LXX, I don't und

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

I added -N. To make search work. — DM Smith From my phone. Brief. Weird autocorrections. > On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:41 PM, David Haslam wrote: > > Thanks DM. > > Interesting observations. > > It prompts the question whether either engine includes the capability to > normalize the search index

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

One further point should be made. Custom normalization is still a Normalization form. It's just that the combining classes for each Hebrew codepoint are not the canonical ones defined by the Unicode Consortium. They are clearly specified if you know where to look. They won't be supported by li

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

Thanks David, DM. Tom Sullivan i...@beforgiven.info FAX: 815-301-2835 - Great News! God created you, owns you and gave you commands to obey. You have disobeyed God - as your conscience very well attests to you. God's holiness and justice compel Him to punish you in Hell. Jesus

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

Thanks DM. Interesting observations. It prompts the question whether either engine includes the capability to normalize the search index (assuming that it does normalize the search key). And that it does this by default Or does indexing assume that all modules were made without using the -N

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

Thanks DM. Interesting observations. It prompts the question whether either engine includes the capability to normalize the search index (assuming that it does normalize the search key). And that it does this by default Or does indexing assume that all modules were made without using the -N

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

The purpose of normalization was for the sake of search. Only when the search index and the search request are normalized to the same form can a result be found. It doesn’t matter if the normalized form is not readable. If SWORD (or JSword) normalizes both the same, then it doesn’t matter what

Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

Now that you understand that, does this change anything regarding the proposed three new catholic lit av11ns ? Best regards, David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 20:09, Cyrille wrote: > Le 06/01/2018 à 20:51, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit : > >> Dear Cyrille, >> >> Are you tak

Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

Le 06/01/2018 à 20:51, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit : > > Dear Cyrille, > > Are you taking into account my comment about our v11ns being supersets > from multiple Bibles and the comments at the beginning of the LXX v11n? > No sorry I missed it! Ok it's clear. I understand well. > // This is a compr

Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

Dear Cyrille, Are you taking into account my comment about our v11ns being supersets from multiple Bibles and the comments at the beginning of the LXX v11n? // This is a compromise versification system, intended to allow encoding of Bibles using a number of slightly varying LXX-based versificati

Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

Le 06/01/2018 à 20:13, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit : > > These v11ns are not in the sources because we are still researching.  > But since these have been double checked to printed editions, > I have the printing edition!! And this report is about the printing edition, not about the doc file. But

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

I should have explained that the "Action" is "Send non-matching text to sub-filter". Best regards, David Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > Original Message > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization > Local Time: 6 Janu

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

"Here's one I made earlier." Comment... | Normalize to NFC excluding any Hebrew text | | NB. Does not expect any alphabetical presentation forms! | +--Perl pattern [[\x{0590}-\x{05FF}]+] with [] | [X] Match case | [ ] Whole words only | [ ] Case sensitive replace | [ ] P

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

Good question, Tom. Assuming that the Latin script part of the source text actually required normalization to NFC, and that at least some of the Biblical Hebrew should not be converted to NFC, you'd build the module using the -N switch of osis2mod, after first applying a script to the source tex

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

Y'all: For text, such as in a commentary, which includes both Hebrew and English (or another modern Latin script using language), what do you put for the normalization? Tom Tom Sullivan i...@beforgiven.info FAX: 815-301-2835 - Great News! God created you, owns you and gav

Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

These v11ns are not in the sources because we are still researching.  But since these have been double checked to printed editions, I highly doubt whatever 'errors' you see are actually errors in the v11n, but rather a bad source text.  I am sorry for speculating, but I know these v11ns were checke

Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

I download this doc I compare different parts from the paper edition, it's the same, but it's right, to be sure 100% I need to read all... Le 06/01/2018 à 20:09, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit : > > > > On 01/06/2018 11:55 AM, Cyrille wrote: >> >  Are

Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

Le 06/01/2018 à 18:36, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit : > > Dear Cyrille, > > I just did a brief diff between the canon_lxx.h and the > canon_lxx-super.h I sent you in my previous email, and the differences > don't look like anything useful.  I must be mistaken about what this > file is.  Have a read

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

David: There seem to be cases where UTF-8 screws up vowel order as well, not just cantillation marks. The experienced Hebrew reader can pretty much figure out what happened, but, I suppose, not always. I do not have a good handle on UTF-8 and its normalization. But it seems that the proble

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

Hi Greg, One area where it might turn out to be useful is for the search features of front-end apps. It could be important to know that the underlying module text is not NFC. That's not to lay down a requirement as to how search features should be designed, but at least to provide the informati

Re: [sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

Why would the front end or engine need to know this information? Would it help the front end developers or users to know it? What do we gain by adding this? (I'm not implying it wouldn't be beneficial. But the only thing I know about Unicode is how the different UTF encodings work, so I have no ide

[sword-devel] Module .conf files, Unicode Normalization

Dear all, We've known for quite a few years that there are aspects of Biblical Hebrew that mean we should avoid converting the Unicode source text to NFC when we build a module. This prompts me to suggest that we ought to define a new key for .conf files. Normalization=NFC (this would be the d

Re: [sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

Hi Cyrille, Just a few comments which I hope will clear up a few things. The sword-tools SVN repo needs to be checked out to your computer before you can run the convert.sh for CCAT. The repo contains the .jar file you asked about. You cannot just download the individual convert.sh script. SWO

[sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

Hello, Before to work on a new module for the LXX, I decided to verify the current LXX v11n. And what was my surprise discovering many errors! Please can you give me the list of the current modules using LXX v11n? I will propose a new with correction, some books give me worries, like Esther, which

[sword-devel] CrossWire website

Hi everyone, Is anyone looking after the CrossWire website these days? There are several out of date items in various pages on our main website. The site is not mobile friendly - there is no reader view in Safari, etc. Viewing our pages via a smart phone is difficult. Best regards, David Sent

Re: [sword-devel] New LXX module

Ulrik Sandborg-Petersen has a GitHub account. https://github.com/emg I've not looked for one belonging to James Tauber. Best regards, David Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > Original Message > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New LXX module > Local Tim

Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: OSHB

Hi everyone, I have found a number of issues with the updated OSHB module which I've reported privately to Peter. Best regards, David Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > Original Message > Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: OSHB > Local Time: 5

Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: OSHB

It's not just the email announcements. Our website looks somewhat stale because the RSS feed is only partially operational. https://crosswire.org/sword/index.jsp Nothing new in the narrow left hand News column since the WHNU module was released in April 2014. The first part of the column is hea

Re: [sword-devel] New LXX module

Le 06/01/2018 à 07:30, ref...@gmx.net a écrit : > Please do not rely on module export and re-import. This might be > useful to see what is going on inside a module, but is lossy and to an > extent unpredictable. > > I would not use any text prepared in this way to upload a new module. > > Instead