Re: [sword-devel] 2TGreek module (versification?)

2017-03-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 03/24/2017 05:48 PM, David Haslam wrote: > How does this work? 2TGreek was created long before av11n, so it depends on basic KJV v11n, as did the LXX + TischMorph modules which constitute it. Whatever was (is) in LXX, that's what's in 2TGreek. ___ sw

Re: [sword-devel] Hebrew OSHB and WLC Bible modules do not fully remove all accenting/diacritics when those settings are turned off?

2017-03-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 03/24/2017 01:58 PM, TS wrote: > as I understand it, Is. 61:1 should not contain any vowel points above the ש > "Shin" letters. Not being a Hebrew reader, I can't tell if the display is fully correct. I see points above ש but don't know if this is right or wrong. Your opinion? I've attached wi

[sword-devel] Incomplete StrongsPadding support for RawLD4

2017-03-24 Thread Jaak Ristioja
Hi! It seems that back in 2013 SVN 2780 introduced the logic to detect strongs numbers and add padding: commit d35ffd0642aadb2dfb52039cc3081e59e5f48225 Author: scribe Date: Fri Feb 1 09:11:52 2013 + added ability to turn off logic to detect strongs numbers and add padding.

[sword-devel] 2TGreek module (versification?)

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
There is no versification entry in *2tgreek.conf* yet the OT is based on the LXX. How does this work? David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/2TGreek-module-versification-tp4657014.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _

Re: [sword-devel] Versification for the Complete Wycliffe Bible ?

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Afterthought: I will upload my copy of *wycliffe.py* to GitHub at some stage, so that anyone can clone it and adapt it for other Bibles on Wikisource. It captures the text from the *Special* download pages and converts each of them to USFM. Acknowledgements to Chris Little (more than three years

[sword-devel] Versification for the Complete Wycliffe Bible ?

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
The complete 76 book text for the *Wycliffe Bible* is available on Wikisource at https:\\en.wikisource.org\wiki\Bible_(Wycliffe) I have already converted the text to USFM and thence to OSIS XML. The text had not been altered since I previously captured the text in January 2014. Back then I merely

Re: [sword-devel] OSISVariants & SWORD

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Tim wrote, "It seems though that if one is viewing the 2TGreek module at the time of the setting change, it requires changing the Bible being used to a different one and then back again in order to refresh the display of the text and have the accents shown." Got it! And unlike other filter switch

Re: [sword-devel] Hebrew OSHB and WLC Bible modules do not fully remove all accenting/diacritics when those settings are turned off?

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Afterthought If Bible students using SWORd front-ends wish to have a further option filter to hide *Sin Dot* and *Shin Dot*, then technically that's feasible, but I doubt that SWORD developers will be in a hurry to make this, and front-end developers may have to wait for a long time. David

Re: [sword-devel] Hebrew OSHB and WLC Bible modules do not fully remove all accenting/diacritics when those settings are turned off?

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Tim is correct in his observation as regards the two diacritics on the Hebrew letter SHIN in modules such as OSHB. They are not hidden when the module options are selected to hide them. Neither the SIN DOT nor the SIN DOT are hidden. However, his conclusion is unwarranted. This is not a bug in

Re: [sword-devel] Hebrew OSHB and WLC Bible modules do not fully remove all accenting/diacritics when those settings are turned off?

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
The Aleppo module (as is) has no Hebrew diacritics at all. Of course, the actual codex should have them, but the module was made from a digital source that lacked them. If a better digital source became available, and had diacritics, then we should rebuild the module. David -- View this messa

Re: [sword-devel] OSISVariants & SWORD

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Tim is right. Modules TR and WHNU do not include this line in the conf file. GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents It would be a simple enough task for these modules to be updated to include this line. Peter ? Best regards, David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.

Re: [sword-devel] OSISVariants & SWORD

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Whatever one might think as a textual critic about the presence or absence of diacritical marks in the original Hebrew of the Tanach, there's a strong sense that such consideration should not come into this technical discussion. The simple truth is that each SWORD module aims to reproduce a clearl

Re: [sword-devel] diatheke search type regex and the dot ?

2017-03-24 Thread Jaak Ristioja
Another possibility is to use Boost.Xpressive [1], which I think supports the Perl regular expressions at runtime, and also static regular expressions using C++ syntax: using namespace boost::xpressive; // sregex rex = sregex::compile( "(\\w+) (\\w+)!" ); sregex rex = (s1= +_w) >> ' '

[sword-devel] XML validation and VPN connections

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
It's not just firewalls that can prevent XML validation using a remote schema location! Sometimes having a *VPN connection* can also cause problems. I was getting strange messages from Notepad++ XMLTools plugin today when I was doing an OSIS validation check. Earlier today it had worked fine.

[sword-devel] "Search" related problems with regards to accent/diacritic marks in the Hebrew OSHB and WLC

2017-03-24 Thread TS
I was curious to see if I could use the accent/diacritic marks to my advantage to find words with the same markings. I used PocketSword. Clucene is the search engine it uses. When I have all the markings turned on in OSHB, copy a word, and then try and find the word, I get zero results. If I tur

[sword-devel] Hebrew OSHB and WLC Bible modules do not fully remove all accenting/diacritics when those settings are turned off?

2017-03-24 Thread TS
I have this problem when using PocketSword. The Aleppo module seems correct though. Does anybody else have this problem with any other frontends ? For example, as I understand it, Is. 61:1 should not contain any vowel points above the ש "Shin" letters. -TS --Sent from phone-- __

Re: [sword-devel] OSISVariants & SWORD

2017-03-24 Thread Timothy Shen-McCullough
It seems that you are correct regarding the rendering of Tisch on PocketSword, however if one uses the 2TGreek module which includes Tisch., it does have the option to show the Greek accents. It seems though that if one is viewing the 2TGreek module at the time of the setting change, it requires

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD defaults for subtractive filters

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
One of the /subtractive/ filters is undocumented apart from being mentioned in *diatheke* CL help. I have therefore posted a question in this talk page: https://crosswire.org/wiki/Talk:DevTools:conf_Files#GlobalOptionFilter.3DUTF8ArabicShaping_.3F David -- View this message in context: http:

[sword-devel] SWORD defaults for subtractive filters

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Further to the later part of our discussion about OSIS variants, I have just added an issue about how SWORD handles subtractive filters in terms of defaults. http://tracker.crosswire.org/browse/API-202 Best regards, David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com

Re: [sword-devel] OSISVariants & SWORD

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Yep, *PocketSword* hides both Hebrew vowels and cantillation. :( And then there's *UTF8ArabicPoints*. Yet strangely enough, *PocketSword* does show the points in (say) the *AraNAV* module. There's a strange inconsistency within this topic. I suppose this came to the scene later than Greek & Hebre

Re: [sword-devel] OSISVariants & SWORD

2017-03-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 03/24/2017 06:25 AM, David Haslam wrote: > e.g. *For UTF8GreekAccents*, the /default/ ought to be to *show* them, Also Hebrew vowel points and cantillation. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/list

Re: [sword-devel] OSISVariants & SWORD

2017-03-24 Thread David Haslam
Even with only two variants supported by SWORD, it manages to get things wrong! e.g. Xiphos has module options for selecting variants: * Primary reading * Secondary reading * All readings Yet when the user selects *Primary*, the *Secondary* reading is displayed, and /vice versa/! This is not a