Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-12 Thread Andrew Thule
Thanks Chris. Here's an English Septuagint versification system, based upon the text I got from Michael and compared to a number of printed version. The Chapter order doesn't quite follow the KJV or NSRV convention, but it does follow the Septuagints order. I appreciate it if you could add this

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-12 Thread Andrew Thule
I was making changes to the LXX2012 version - but then quit. I decided to instead work on getting out a version with original text. I've created a versification system based upon an 1857 edition of Brenton's book (and consulted 2 other versions, including a 1900 edition). The versification doesn'

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote: > OK guys so that bottom line is that if I want to use libsword I must add a > GPL2 licence, so that I licence my code under both GPL2 and GPL3. > > I would be interested in know what it is in GPL3 that sword contributors are > unhappy about. I

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel Hughes
OK can understand the worry about FSF changing the terms of the licence in the future to something you are not happy with. I will therefore licence my code under GPL2. Thanks for taking the time to explain your position to me. Cheers, Daniel On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Chris Little wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Chris Little
On 08/12/2012 05:51 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote: OK here is the issue for me. My application (Wide Margin) is GPL 3. It has been all it's life. I want to use libsword. But libsword is GPL2. The license employed by The SWORD Project is presented in the LICENSE file in the root of the source tree. M

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel Hughes
OK guys so that bottom line is that if I want to use libsword I must add a GPL2 licence, so that I licence my code under both GPL2 and GPL3. I would be interested in know what it is in GPL3 that sword contributors are unhappy about. It still ensures that commercial entities cannot take from us our

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel Hughes
This is from the FSF in 2010 http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement/ On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Nic Carter wrote: > I'm interested in hearing how exactly it is incompatible... It originally > was (in 2008 when you weren't able to make any iOS source co

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Nic Carter
I'm interested in hearing how exactly it is incompatible... It originally was (in 2008 when you weren't able to make any iOS source code publicly available, a rather unfortunate decision which has since been overturned!) but it is now my understanding that that is no longer the case & hence we s

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote: > OK here is the issue for me. My application (Wide Margin) is GPL 3. It has > been all it's life. I want to use libsword. But libsword is GPL2. > > GPL 3 is a later version of GPL 2. The FSF want people to use GPL 3. That is their recommendat

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel Hughes
To further complicate things, how is PocketSword available in the the apple app store when the app store terms of service are incompatible with the GPL? On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote: > OK here is the issue for me. My application (Wide Margin) is GPL 3. It has > been all

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel Hughes
OK here is the issue for me. My application (Wide Margin) is GPL 3. It has been all it's life. I want to use libsword. But libsword is GPL2. GPL 3 is a later version of GPL 2. The FSF want people to use GPL 3. What would it take for the sword project to re-licence to: GPL 2 or later. I'm sure tha

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
There is a lot of confusion about. But it is actually very simple. A complete programme binary incorporating libsword (or other GPL2 code) requires to be GPL2, i.e. full sources need to be released etc etc etc. The "compatible" is here very limited as essentially only a copyleft license will do.

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Greg Hellings
More specifically is the GPL FAQ page, which states the matter very succinctly. http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl-faq.html#IfLibraryIsGPL Yes. The application "has to be under the GPL or a GPL-compatible license". --Greg On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 201

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Chris Little wrote: > On 08/12/2012 01:11 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: >> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Chris Little >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure I see the distinction. For GPLv2 software A to be used by or >>> incorporated in some other software B, GPLv2 must

Re: [sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Chris Little
On 08/12/2012 01:11 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Chris Little wrote: I'm not sure I see the distinction. For GPLv2 software A to be used by or incorporated in some other software B, GPLv2 must be compatible with software B's license. The set of licenses that GPLv2 i

[sword-devel] GPL restrictions (was Re: using a zText module)

2012-08-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Chris Little wrote: > I'm not sure I see the distinction. For GPLv2 software A to be used by or > incorporated in some other software B, GPLv2 must be compatible with > software B's license. The set of licenses that GPLv2 is compatible with > consists of exactly an

Re: [sword-devel] using a zText module

2012-08-12 Thread Chris Little
I'm not sure I see the distinction. For GPLv2 software A to be used by or incorporated in some other software B, GPLv2 must be compatible with software B's license. The set of licenses that GPLv2 is compatible with consists of exactly and only GPLv2. (This is distinct from the set of licenses t

Re: [sword-devel] using a zText module

2012-08-12 Thread Greg Hellings
This is not true. Any modifications to Sword need to be GPLv2 but any applications or bindings need only be GPLv2-compatible. This had been explicitly checked and confirmed with the staff at FSF. --Greg On Aug 12, 2012 1:57 PM, "Chris Little" wrote: > On 08/11/2012 07:38 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote

Re: [sword-devel] using a zText module

2012-08-12 Thread Chris Little
On 08/11/2012 07:38 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote: I wouldn't go as far as to say that I have working c# bindings, I only have a very small subset working. I was planning on publishing what I have on bitbucket under GPL3. A small reminder: The SWORD Project is licensed as GPL2. It is not licensed as

Re: [sword-devel] using a zText module

2012-08-12 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Greg is right, but concerning VerseKey objects. The problem with instancing a VerseKey is that it defaults to the KJV v11n system. The module may use another. So, then you need to setVersification appropriately on the newly instantiated VerseKey to access all the verses correctly for the module.