Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Quick note before I get on a long flight back to the Good Ol' U.S. of A. There are 2 distinct uses cases to consider here: 1. Lookups of linked entries, e.g., Bible with word lemma, user hovers or clicks on a word. SWORD handles this use case well. The latest code in trunk allows a .conf entry

Re: [sword-devel] FTBFS on Fedora/x86_64 [Was: Re: Versification scheme for a new Bible translation]

2012-04-30 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 30.4.2012 23:58, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: You are using gcc-4.7. See attached patch. Bindings are broken. I do not have a fix. Actually, silly me, after trying your patch, I made my brain think again, and I've realized that we have to have a patch in Fedora. Which we do ... http://pkgs.fed

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
On 04/30/2012 06:47 AM, Chris Little wrote: > Sounds French. We don't really have enough information to produce this v11n > system yet. The most important piece of information to know is that unless you build some flexibility into the system and refrain from ever hard coding the number of verse

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread David Troidl
On 4/30/2012 7:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM, David Troidl wrote: Hi Chris, I'm certainly no expert on your TEI dictionaries, but wouldn't it make sense to have the first key be one that would sort properly, and present the dictionary in true alphabetical order? I'm thinking

Re: [sword-devel] FTBFS on Fedora/x86_64 [Was: Re: Versification scheme for a new Bible translation]

2012-04-30 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 30/04/12 22:50, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 30.4.2012 19:44, Greg Hellings wrote: >> They worked for me a few weeks ago, but I only ever build from SVN. > > on this more or less Fedora 17, I get this error when running make on > trunk: > > What I am doing wrong? > You are using gcc-4.7. See attac

[sword-devel] FTBFS on Fedora/x86_64 [Was: Re: Versification scheme for a new Bible translation]

2012-04-30 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 30.4.2012 19:44, Greg Hellings wrote: They worked for me a few weeks ago, but I only ever build from SVN. With the ./configure line ./configure --enable-debug --enable-tests --enable-utilities --enable-examples --with-clucene=/usr --with-icusword on this more or less Fedora 17, I get thi

Re: [sword-devel] lemma systems

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel Owens
On 04/30/2012 12:03 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 04/30/2012 06:47 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: The related discussion about TEI markup and lexicon keys raises another issue: lemma systems. Currently the only defined lemma system is "strong". It is easy to connect to, but we need to move beyond it. I h

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Brian J Dumont wrote: > On 04/30/2012 12:37 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Haslam >>  wrote: >>> >>> Didn't Greg Hellings write a Perl script to check which of our defined >>> v11ns >>> would be the most suitable for a new m

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Brian J Dumont
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 04/30/2012 07:44 AM, Brian J Dumont wrote: Hi all, I'm working with a Bible translator who has recently completed a Bible translation into the Tandroy language. I'm almost done converting his basic source into osis, and will soon be working on gett

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Brian J Dumont
On 04/30/2012 12:37 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Haslam wrote: Didn't Greg Hellings write a Perl script to check which of our defined v11ns would be the most suitable for a new module? Python. How dare you suggest I would sully myself with Perl?! :P http://

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:25 PM, DM Smith wrote: > On 04/30/2012 10:36 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > > Hi DM, > > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:00 AM, DM Smith wrote: >> >> >> On 04/30/2012 09:37 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 04/30/2012 06:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 4/30/201

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread DM Smith
On 04/30/2012 10:36 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: Hi DM, On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:00 AM, DM Smith > wrote: On 04/30/2012 09:37 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: On 04/30/2012 06:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM, David Troidl wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] lemma systems

2012-04-30 Thread Chris Little
On 04/30/2012 06:47 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: The related discussion about TEI markup and lexicon keys raises another issue: lemma systems. Currently the only defined lemma system is "strong". It is easy to connect to, but we need to move beyond it. I have several questions: 1. Should we define ne

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Chris Little
On 04/30/2012 07:44 AM, Brian J Dumont wrote: Hi all, I'm working with a Bible translator who has recently completed a Bible translation into the Tandroy language. I'm almost done converting his basic source into osis, and will soon be working on getting it into SWORD. The versification looks s

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Didn't Greg Hellings write a Perl script to check which of our defined v11ns > would be the most suitable for a new module? Python. How dare you suggest I would sully myself with Perl?! :P http://www.crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/vers

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Brian J Dumont
On 04/30/2012 12:10 PM, David Haslam wrote: PS. Isn't the OT of the KJV based on the MT? If so, what's the real problem? I had thought so as well; but compare KJV to JPS. There are a number of OT chapters where the JPS has many more verses (for example, Lev 5, Num 17) -- ---

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread David Haslam
Didn't Greg Hellings write a Perl script to check which of our defined v11ns would be the most suitable for a new module? David PS. Isn't the OT of the KJV based on the MT? If so, what's the real problem? PS2. During module build, please be careful. Unless the Zcomp problem has been solved alrea

Re: [sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Best to check which would be missing least. And then cram a few verses together, unless we can expect a whole lot of other texts in a similar versification. Peter Original-Nachricht > Datum: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:44:13 -0400 > Von: Brian J Dumont > An: SWORD Developers\' Collabo

[sword-devel] Versification scheme for a new Bible translation

2012-04-30 Thread Brian J Dumont
Hi all, I'm working with a Bible translator who has recently completed a Bible translation into the Tandroy language. I'm almost done converting his basic source into osis, and will soon be working on getting it into SWORD. The versification looks so far to be MT verses in KJV book order in

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi DM, On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:00 AM, DM Smith wrote: > > On 04/30/2012 09:37 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: > >> >> >> On 04/30/2012 06:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: >> >>> On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM, David Troidl wrote: >>> Hi Chris, I'm certainly no expert on your TEI dictionaries, but would

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread DM Smith
On 04/30/2012 09:37 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: On 04/30/2012 06:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM, David Troidl wrote: Hi Chris, I'm certainly no expert on your TEI dictionaries, but wouldn't it make sense to have the first key be one that would sort properly, and present the d

[sword-devel] lemma systems

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel Owens
The related discussion about TEI markup and lexicon keys raises another issue: lemma systems. Currently the only defined lemma system is "strong". It is easy to connect to, but we need to move beyond it. I have several questions: 1. Should we define new lemma systems? 2. How can we make such l

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel Owens
On 04/30/2012 06:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM, David Troidl wrote: Hi Chris, I'm certainly no expert on your TEI dictionaries, but wouldn't it make sense to have the first key be one that would sort properly, and present the dictionary in true alphabetical order? I'm thinki

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread Chris Little
On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM, David Troidl wrote: Hi Chris, I'm certainly no expert on your TEI dictionaries, but wouldn't it make sense to have the first key be one that would sort properly, and present the dictionary in true alphabetical order? I'm thinking of Middle Liddell, as well as the Hebrew. Th

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread David Troidl
Hi Chris, I'm certainly no expert on your TEI dictionaries, but wouldn't it make sense to have the first key be one that would sort properly, and present the dictionary in true alphabetical order? I'm thinking of Middle Liddell, as well as the Hebrew. This key wouldn't even necessarily have