Re: [sword-devel] two SummaTheologica modules

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Chris Little wrote: > > Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Chris Little wrote: >>> AquinasSummaTheologica is a recent submission from Pedro Giffuni, based >>> on CCEL's (ca. 2002) OSIS 1.1 edition, converted to OSIS 2.1.1. >> Just a quick thought: AquinaSummaTheologica is an awfully lon

Re: [sword-devel] two SummaTheologica modules

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Little
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Chris Little wrote: >> AquinasSummaTheologica is a recent submission from Pedro Giffuni, based >> on CCEL's (ca. 2002) OSIS 1.1 edition, converted to OSIS 2.1.1. > > Just a quick thought: AquinaSummaTheologica is an awfully long name for > a module. I

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Am 16.06.2008 um 22:45 schrieb DM Smith: > Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> The way we work with software is >> >> 1) multiple independent projects >> 2) each project has one or several leads >> 3) there are other contributors with and without write access to the >> project repository >> 4) all project

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Am 16.06.2008 um 22:35 schrieb Sebastien Koechlin: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:43:38PM +0100, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> a) having a raw text repository where the texts are kept in some >> import >> format (OSIS, ThML, whatever) under version control >> b) with named module owner(s) and contri

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Chapter Titles?

2008-06-16 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:42 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > >> I'm looking through the mod2osis.cpp file, trying to bring its output >> closer into the form of the module inputs (basing it off of the result >> of running the tool as c

Re: [sword-devel] two SummaTheologica modules

2008-06-16 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Chris Little wrote: > AquinasSummaTheologica is a recent submission from Pedro Giffuni, based > on CCEL's (ca. 2002) OSIS 1.1 edition, converted to OSIS 2.1.1. Just a quick thought: AquinaSummaTheologica is an awfully long name for a module. I think most of the frontends depen

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Chapter Titles?

2008-06-16 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > I'm looking through the mod2osis.cpp file, trying to bring its output > closer into the form of the module inputs (basing it off of the result > of running the tool as compared to the KJV input files). So far I > seem to have the following prob

[sword-devel] Bible Chapter Titles?

2008-06-16 Thread Greg Hellings
I'm looking through the mod2osis.cpp file, trying to bring its output closer into the form of the module inputs (basing it off of the result of running the tool as compared to the KJV input files). So far I seem to have the following problems - I can't seem to find where (or if) the following info

Re: [sword-devel] GerReinhardt

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Little
If you would like to help with this, you can download the source document in Zefania XML, make the corrections, and submit it to them and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=89078&package_id=93533&release_id=339281 --Chris Peter von Kaehne wrote: > This m

[sword-devel] Gen31:55 and Gen32

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
If you put Leeser, GerNeu and GerTafel, GerLuther1912 and GerLuther1545 next to each other at chapters Gen 31:55 - Gen 32 end you will see the German versification of the content diverges grossly - not just from the KJV/Leeser, but also from each other. Same in Exodus 8. I am now too tired to pur

[sword-devel] GerReinhardt

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
This module has a number of poorly encoded verses - please see Wiki Needs correction ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above

[sword-devel] two SummaTheologica modules

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Little
Please take a look at the two Summa Theologica modules I've just uploaded. I would like an opinion on which seems to be a better module (and should be moved towards the public repository). SummaTheologica is quite an old module (from 2003) and was previously available in the beta repository as

Re: [sword-devel] FreJND

2008-06-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Peter von Kaehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A series of three characters in GS which can not be rendered. in BD > these characters appear as a single star. The place appears uniform in > the front of SEIGNEUR or DIEU Ben Morgan discussed this on 11 Jun, in response to your observation about Chi

Re: [sword-devel] FreJND

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Sebastien Koechlin wrote: >> When FreJND will be in beta, I don't know how I will be able to make >> corrections. > > Is now in Beta > Problems with the module as it stands are few as far as I can determine In Mal1:9 and Mat1:20 I noted - and then subsequently in aq nu

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Little
Sebastien Koechlin wrote: > I think it's a very good idea. As a module maintainer (FreJND), I'm on the > list for more than a year. I submited a module on January 1st, and it's > still not in the beta repository. I asked friends to review it, but as it is > still not in beta, they can not install

Re: [sword-devel] Leeser and JapMeiji - structural problems?

2008-06-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I didn't see any problems during a quick browse using BibleCS. Unless > you can provide a better indication of where precisely in the module the > problem is occurring, I'm going to suggest it's probably a GS-specific bug. It is almost certainly a GS bu

[sword-devel] GerAlbrecht

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Ger Albrecht is a special case - I checked through so far about 2/3 of the "missing" verses A fair number are subsumed as expected, presumabvly dt different versification scheme. The rest though is missing indeed from the main text, but is then quoted in the extensive foot notes of the module. It

[sword-devel] FreJND

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Sebastien Koechlin wrote: > > When FreJND will be in beta, I don't know how I will be able to make > corrections. Is now in Beta ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Sebastien Koechlin
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:43:38PM +0100, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > a) having a raw text repository where the texts are kept in some import > format (OSIS, ThML, whatever) under version control > b) with named module owner(s) and contributor(s) - > c) with some form of automated build mechanism whi

Re: [sword-devel] Malachi 4 - was Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread DM Smith
Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Dm, please compare the list of the various German and French modules - > > The lists are identical between all these various modules (when taking > into account that not all modules have all books) > > I am 99% sure that this is the result of KJV vs Luther versification, >

Re: [sword-devel] Malachi 4 - was Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Dm, please compare the list of the various German and French modules - The lists are identical between all these various modules (when taking into account that not all modules have all books) I am 99% sure that this is the result of KJV vs Luther versification, Peter Peter von Kaehne wrote: > D

Re: [sword-devel] Malachi 4 - was Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread jonathon
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> The last verse of many chapters is missing. >> Malachi 4 is missing from many Bibles. > I just checked out a printed French Bible: > KJV scheme Malachi 4 is expressed as Malachi 3:19-24. Do the beta testing tools state the number of vers

[sword-devel] Malachi 4 - was Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
DM Smith wrote: > I find some of the results surprising: > The last verse of many chapters is missing. > Malachi 4 is missing from many Bibles. I just checked out a printed French Bible: La Bible, Ancient et Nouveau Testament traduite de'l hebreu et du gree en francais courant (Alliance Biblique

Re: [sword-devel] Getting Started - Primers and Such

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Little
Jerold Haas wrote: > Those in the list: > > I have been using Windows version of sword project for quite a > while, and currently using v1.59. I have noticed what appears to be an > XML parsing issue (Psalms 82:2) that appears to have inappropriately > inserted raw XML in it. I'm using KJ

Re: [sword-devel] ABU - red letter markup problem

2008-06-16 Thread DM Smith
Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Apologoies, I had not. > > I have now but the problem is not resolved in BD - not much at all is > visible. > > Looks better in GS, but look e.g. at Luke 3 > In GS only the first verse of matt 6 and of matt 7 are in red. > > Chris Little wrote: > >> did you update?

Re: [sword-devel] ABU - red letter markup problem

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Apologoies, I had not. I have now but the problem is not resolved in BD - not much at all is visible. Looks better in GS, but look e.g. at Luke 3 Chris Little wrote: > did you update? > > Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> Also a problem in BD - Matth 5 and 6 are not appearing red, nor anything >> in

Re: [sword-devel] ABU - red letter markup problem

2008-06-16 Thread DM Smith
I just downloaded the latest ABU. The problem is that spans multiple verses. The markup is correct OSIS. This will not work in any system that uses table cells to display text in parallel, such as BibleTool. Or shows verses in isolation, such as a search result, in any of our tools. BD requir

Re: [sword-devel] ABU - red letter markup problem

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Little
did you update? Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Also a problem in BD - Matth 5 and 6 are not appearing red, nor anything > in Acts 1 > > Peter > > Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> I have a problem in GS, not tried yet BibleCS. >> >> problems I found are also e.g. in Matt chapter 6 not red but for verse 1 >>

Re: [sword-devel] ABU - red letter markup problem

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Also a problem in BD - Matth 5 and 6 are not appearing red, nor anything in Acts 1 Peter Peter von Kaehne wrote: > I have a problem in GS, not tried yet BibleCS. > > problems I found are also e.g. in Matt chapter 6 not red but for verse 1 > > Also Acts 1 from verse 4 onwards the rest of teh cha

Re: [sword-devel] Leeser and JapMeiji - structural problems?

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Little
I didn't see any problems during a quick browse using BibleCS. Unless you can provide a better indication of where precisely in the module the problem is occurring, I'm going to suggest it's probably a GS-specific bug. --Chris Peter von Kaehne wrote: > yet another is Calvin's commentaries > >

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
DM Smith wrote: >> Peter wrote: >> a) having a raw text repository where the texts are kept in some import >> format (OSIS, ThML, whatever) under version control >> > I think this needs to be the original text as we received it. Not the > import format. We should keep complete records of when,

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread DM Smith
Peter von Kaehne wrote: > The way we work with software is > > 1) multiple independent projects > 2) each project has one or several leads > 3) there are other contributors with and without write access to the > project repository > 4) all projects are in some form of version control > 5) Many proj

Re: [sword-devel] LXXM module crashes Gnomesword

2008-06-16 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
The newly committed code is very preliminary. The first milestone is for frontends to need no changes to support these modules as "Biblical Texts" using KJV versification. Obviously we have not hit this milestone yet, but we've made steps toward it. It SHOULD be the case that if you remove th

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Peter von Kaehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dm Smith wrote: > >> Chris, don't take it as criticism or a put down. I don't mean it >> that way. I appreciate all your hard work and your contributions! > > Seconded, wholeheartedly. Agreed! It seems on my hearings

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Dm Smith wrote: > Chris, don't take it as criticism or a put down. I don't mean it > that way. I appreciate all your hard work and your contributions! Seconded, wholeheartedly. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crossw

Re: [sword-devel] Status report : testing modules in beta

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Eeli has written a list of things we should check - see on the wiki: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/Testing_of_new_modules I have worked through most of this as far as it can be done in GS alone. As now the structural part is done my suggestion is that you simply check for actual display

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread DM Smith
Peter von Kaehne wrote: > The TurNTB has often verses grouped together, but this is not encoded > ie.g. as v4-6 but instead v4 has all content and v5 and v6 are empty. > So the list you showed for it is endless in consequence. > The wiki says that this module is known bad, so I'll assume that i

Re: [sword-devel] Status report : testing modules in beta

2008-06-16 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Am 16.06.2008 um 10:47 schrieb Peter von Kaehne: > Practically all modules in beta are now tested for structural > soundness, > conf file consistency, declared features working, display in GS. The > rest will be done this pm. > > Display in MacSword is out of my reach as I do not have a Mac. I

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
The way we work with software is 1) multiple independent projects 2) each project has one or several leads 3) there are other contributors with and without write access to the project repository 4) all projects are in some form of version control 5) Many projects have a development version and (in

Re: [sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
The TurNTB has often verses grouped together, but this is not encoded ie.g. as v4-6 but instead v4 has all content and v5 and v6 are empty. So the list you showed for it is endless in consequence. I would think this + alternative versification is the case in many other Bibles. Personally I would

[sword-devel] Bibles in Beta

2008-06-16 Thread DM Smith
For what it's worth, I've "scoped out" the Bibles in beta, comparing them to the KJV versification. (I skipped the GenBook Bibles) I wrote a little program using JSword to do the work. Hopefully, I didn't make a mistake in writing it. (I've spot checked it against GnomeSword.) Below are the res

Re: [sword-devel] Alternative source for 1876 Russian Synodal Translation

2008-06-16 Thread David Haslam
Another site that has the Russian Synodal Bible available (now in its Fifth Edition), http://www.bibles.org.uk/ http://www.bibles.org.uk/ It can be downloaded as a PDF file. As can also the Bulgarian Bible based on 1940 edition, revised by Bibliata.com There are also several "printed to deman

Re: [sword-devel] Leeser and JapMeiji - structural problems?

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
yet another is Calvin's commentaries Loops in OT, leaving NT inaccessible and when from start in NT OT is inaccessible - but the drop down works in NT Peter Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Another module with the same problem is GerTExtBibel > > I have reported the same matter on Gnomsword's developm

Re: [sword-devel] Download statistics from server

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I just had a chance to look at it - this is brilliant and does what I need. Thanks a lot! Peter Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Peter, I don't know if stats from my repo are important to you, but I > just put up a short script to run at 12:01am every day to generate a > simple listing of month-to-date

Re: [sword-devel] Leeser and JapMeiji - structural problems?

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Another module with the same problem is GerTExtBibel I have reported the same matter on Gnomsword's development list. Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Both modules trigger odd behaviour in GS > > 1) contrary to other "partial" books it is possible to rotate through > the book - ending on last you move

Re: [sword-devel] Download statistics from server

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
That is wonderful Karl! I wil look at it later tonight in detail. I do not need accurate numbers. Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Peter, I don't know if stats from my repo are important to you, but I > just put up a short script to run at 12:01am every day to generate a > simple listing of month-to-date

Re: [sword-devel] Download statistics from server

2008-06-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Peter, I don't know if stats from my repo are important to you, but I just put up a short script to run at 12:01am every day to generate a simple listing of month-to-date activity in /pub/sword/usage. You can get these dumps and then e.g. "grep /far 2008.06" and similar. It makes no attempt to di

Re: [sword-devel] LXXM module crashes Gnomesword

2008-06-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Indeed, any of the new VerseKey modules cause a crash in GnomeSword. Per-chapter display begins by accessing the last verse of the previous chapter: Verse selected in SWModule *mod using (*mod)--, text then obtained from *mod. #0 0x0811dc89 in sword::SWBuf::set (this=0xb900800, [EMAIL PROTECTED])

[sword-devel] Status report : testing modules in beta

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Practically all modules in beta are now tested for structural soundness, conf file consistency, declared features working, display in GS. The rest will be done this pm. Display in MacSword is out of my reach as I do not have a Mac. Display in BibleCS -if someone could do this on an existing insta

Re: [sword-devel] Project status

2008-06-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
jonathon wrote: > All: > > Browsing Sourceforge, I found the following projects: > > * SwordModuleCreator Last release 4/06 - no CVS activity since 2005 > * jianzidian Was a project to create a dictionary. > * Dreambeam Appears active - recent uploads and active website with recent additions