Re: [sword-devel] MacSword

2008-06-08 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Yes. Hallelujah. Nathan set up WordPress and we've updated the content. Manfred Am 09.06.2008 um 05:03 schrieb DM Smith: > I just went to macsword.com and saw that it is current! And I wanted > to say: Hallelujah! > > Great job! > > In Him, > DM > > > __

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Daniel Owens
Shame on me for not knowing GS better (I've just never been a fan of Gnome's look). I really like the advanced search dialog (I never knew it was there!), though a "search all modules" or something like that would be nice to save time. Or perhaps in the custom list creation dialog a button that

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:57 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > >> OT: have you >> ever wanted to find a verse, but been unable to find the right words >> to type for the particular version you are using - having synonym >> suggestion u

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:50 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > >> applications should >> allow searching more than one commentary/genbook at the same time > > Good idea. > > In the wiki, we are trying to put together a "Features List"

[sword-devel] MacSword

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
I just went to macsword.com and saw that it is current! And I wanted to say: Hallelujah! Great job! In Him, DM ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsu

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Daniel Owens
The idea of being able to search not only text but also keys and cross-references is exciting. That way if you are searching for "faith" you don't get thousands of hits that aren't so useful but you can focus on hits that are speaking directly to the issue of faith rather than just making an in

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > OT: have you > ever wanted to find a verse, but been unable to find the right words > to type for the particular version you are using - having synonym > suggestion using something like wordnet is another thing that might be > worth looking at

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > applications should > allow searching more than one commentary/genbook at the same time Good idea. In the wiki, we are trying to put together a "Features List" for the ideal application: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/Frontends:Fe

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Jonathan Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> have you ever wanted to find a verse, but been unable to find the >> right words to type for the particular version you are using > > :-) > > In GS, I use a custom module l

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Jonathan Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > have you ever wanted to find a verse, but been unable to find the > right words to type for the particular version you are using :-) In GS, I use a custom module list I call "Good Translations" in which I have included all the English modules I've g

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Daniel Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the wrong notice would only look ridiculous to the > kind of people who would make use of this. The one-sentence addition to About is a minor yet accurate summary. > Regarding the question of breaking up the module, if there aren't > major performance pr

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Daniel Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't personally have a strong opinion about identifying the EarlyFathers > Genbook as containing heretical material, though I think Eeli is right that > the wrong notice would only look ridiculous to the kind of people wh

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: > That brings me to another issue: the ability to search genbooks and > commentaries. I have a vague memory of comments on this forum to the > effect that such a feature isn't necessary or desireable, but the > Father's module is a prime examp

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Daniel Owens
I don't personally have a strong opinion about identifying the EarlyFathers Genbook as containing heretical material, though I think Eeli is right that the wrong notice would only look ridiculous to the kind of people who would make use of this. Regarding the question of breaking up the modul

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Brian J. Dumont
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > "Brian J. Dumont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I'd strongly be in favor of a notice in the About section that this >> module contains a wide swath of texts of interest to Biblical scholars, >> including documents that have historically and currently are considered >>

Re: [sword-devel] CD Artwork aka HELP

2008-06-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
David, I received your CD artwork. Thank you so much for this work! I must have wasted half a day last week trying to throw something together and failed every turn I took. I should have known to ask for help before attempting anything aesthetic. Your unique skills are greatly appreciated.

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Brian J. Dumont wrote: > >> If this is one huge module it's not a big problem because casual >> readers >> will avoid it and people can see what it is. It's also easy to add a >> notice in the About section. However, if the module is chopped in >> pieces >> it's ha

[sword-devel] Spansih Bible problem

2008-06-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Following a request on Sword support for the Dios Habla Hoy I just now had a look at the Spanish Bibles we do have and found that the SpaVNT has some serious problems. Not sure how to describe it, but a sample text may show the problem Mat 1:2. This is across all books. Como est\'e1 escrito en Is

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Brian J. Dumont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd strongly be in favor of a notice in the About section that this > module contains a wide swath of texts of interest to Biblical scholars, > including documents that have historically and currently are considered > heretical as well as documents wh

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Brian J. Dumont
> If this is one huge module it's not a big problem because casual readers > will avoid it and people can see what it is. It's also easy to add a > notice in the About section. However, if the module is chopped in pieces > it's harder to say whether some module is part of this compilation or a > r

Re: [sword-devel] Text layout (was Re: Portable Bible prototype)

2008-06-08 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Note a couple BT glitches: > - Attempting to apply a bigger point size to the use of Padauk font, it > had no effect until I quit and restarted BT. I will look at this if I remember later, but it might be changed anyways (or it may have been changed a

Re: [sword-devel] InstallSize

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't see any reason that it needs to be highly accurate. The > nearest K or even 100K should be sufficient. That is a minor change to > the module would not warrant re-computation. - There's no reason not to calculate it precisely, considering that any scr

Re: [sword-devel] Text layout (was Re: Portable Bible prototype)

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
>> - Attempting to apply a bigger point size to the use of Padauk font, it >> had no effect until I quit and restarted BT. Martin Gruner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmm, which version do you use? It works at least in SVN which will be > released as 1.7 soon. 1.6.5.1, as handed to me by yum a

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Brian J. Dumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both > orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical > texts: see in particular volume 8. I haven't delved into these texts, > but a

Re: [sword-devel] Text layout (was Re: Portable Bible prototype)

2008-06-08 Thread Martin Gruner
Hi Karl, > Note a couple BT glitches: > - Attempting to apply a bigger point size to the use of Padauk font, it > had no effect until I quit and restarted BT. Hmm, which version do you use? It works at least in SVN which will be released as 1.7 soon. > - BT has no full-name language listings

Re: [sword-devel] Burmese rendering, was Portable Bible prototype

2008-06-08 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The suggested best course of action for today is to use the Eclipse SWT >> framework since it will use pango on linux & uniscribe on windows. > > GS already uses pango, and has the same mistakes (relative to WorldPad) > as see

Re: [sword-devel] Burmese rendering, was Portable Bible prototype

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Chris Little wrote: Regarding the possibility of complex script rendering in BD, there was a brief discussion of complex scripts in Java on graphite-devel a week ago: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=OF488F087E.E5E55533-ON86257456.004F079E-

Re: [sword-devel] Burmese rendering, was Portable Bible prototype

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The suggested best course of action for today is to use the Eclipse SWT > framework since it will use pango on linux & uniscribe on windows. GS already uses pango, and has the same mistakes (relative to WorldPad) as seen in BT and Windows. Notably, ther

Re: [sword-devel] Burmese rendering, was Portable Bible prototype

2008-06-08 Thread Chris Little
Burmese/Myanmar has been in Unicode since 3.0, but it got a major overhaul in version 5.1, which just came out a couple months ago. (And apparently there are still felt to be some shortcomings in the new encoding model.) The Burmese Bible we have most likely uses the Unicode 3.0 model, while f

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To a large degree, > the ability to think critically is missing in today's church. Apropos of this, I'd like to put in a plug for The Theology Program, about which you can learn at http://reclaimingthemind.org. I've taken the 1st 3 (of 9) courses onsite as

Re: [sword-devel] Text layout (was Re: Portable Bible prototype)

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Eeli Kaikkonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Having some reference images in Internet would be nice, I would like to > see how this shows up in BibleTime and how it should be. Also: http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../BurJudson-BT.png Note a couple BT glitches: - Attempting to apply a bigger point siz

Re: [sword-devel] Portable Bible prototype

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Peter von Kaehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have just now installed BurJudson and the SIL Padauk Myanmar font. > There are significant graphical differences between Gnomesword and > Bibledesktop, when comparing Gen 1:1-2. The differences appear to be > mostly with some composite characters. T

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 7, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Brian J. Dumont wrote: > We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both > orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical > texts: see in particular volume 8. I haven't delved into these texts, > but a number of them are cer

[sword-devel] Burmese rendering, was Portable Bible prototype

2008-06-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I attach a screenshot The differences I found in Gen1:1 are 1A vs 1B - BD appears to have two characters in sequence while GS has split the second character and made it "embrace" the first one. 2A vs 2B(a) At the centre of the word appears a character a little bit like a handwritten latinate sma

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Brian J. Dumont wrote: > We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both > orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical > texts: see in particular volume 8. I haven't delved into these texts, > but a number of them are certainly qu

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Brian J. Dumont wrote: > We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both > orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical > texts: see in particular volume 8. Some of the texts are more than doubtful - all that pseudoepigraphic fake NT stuff in Vol 8 is