Re: [sword-devel] [Fwd: Crosswire Bible Society Request (01/28/08)]

2008-01-28 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Daniel, Daniel Owens wrote: > Is it possible to put a link in the "About" section as well? That way > users who download the module will also see where to find out more. Yes, usually the About section has the ShortPromo information and much more. > For the ShortPromo, I looked at the ESV info

Re: [sword-devel] [Fwd: Crosswire Bible Society Request (01/28/08)]

2008-01-28 Thread Daniel Owens
Troy, Is it possible to put a link in the "About" section as well? That way users who download the module will also see where to find out more. For the ShortPromo, I looked at the ESV info page because I know they have a ShortPromo like in the .conf file, but I didn't see the link at the inf

Re: [sword-devel] [Fwd: Crosswire Bible Society Request (01/28/08)]

2008-01-28 Thread peter
The immediate place for such a link would be in the module config file. This would result in anyone looking at the info about the Vietnamese Module getting the link to the Vietnamese Bible Society. The module config file is used as info on the website. http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModIn

Re: [sword-devel] [Fwd: Crosswire Bible Society Request (01/28/08)]

2008-01-28 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear Daniel, This is great news! Thank you for pursuing this! Our policy is to allow a "ShortPromo" entry in the .conf file of a module. When this module is viewed in SWORDWeb, or when the details of the module are viewed on the download page, the short promo is displayed. These allow for

[sword-devel] [Fwd: Crosswire Bible Society Request (01/28/08)]

2008-01-28 Thread Daniel Owens
I just received this response from the copyright holders of the New Vietnamese Bible (NVB), published in 2002. As I understand their response, they are granting permission for Crosswire to distribute the NVB but would like to have linking between the two websites. Perhaps they want to give peop

Re: [sword-devel] Inconveniences for Catholic bibles and devotionals

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Ortley
Chris Little wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I have some pretty cool documents.. starting with the new Catechism of the >> Catholic Church (in spanish), but before that (although not necessary) I >> thought it would be nice to have a Catholic Bible. >> > > Is the CCC copyrighted? I'v

Re: [sword-devel] help with a project

2008-01-28 Thread Wade Maxfield
>Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:57:10 -0500 >From: Karl Kleinpaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >On one very serious note... Do not presume to lecture people working >with this organization on "the ramifications of the GPL." Some of us >having been producing free software since before the concept gained >tren

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hey all, My apologies for being out of the loop for a week or so. Hope to recover soon from the past weekend and get back into things. It was great seeing Daniel again and meeting Karl in person for the first time. Thanks, Karl, for the debrief to sword-devel. Just a quick note on this reo

Re: [sword-devel] Get DD

2008-01-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
M Mital <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a way to get a list of all available daily devotionals on the > system (differentiating them from the Lexicon/dictionary category)? DDs have these entries in *.conf: Feature=DailyDevotion Category=Daily Devotional ___

[sword-devel] Module making

2008-01-28 Thread DM Smith
The wiki page, http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/DevTools:Modules, now is more current and duplicates the information on http://www.crosswire.org/sword/develop/swordmodule I think we can replace old with the new. -- DM ___ sword-devel mailing l

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread DM Smith
Martin Gruner wrote: >> No timeline. As far as I know, no one has stepped up and volunteered to >> make the remaining changes. >> >> Perhaps when Troy comes back from BibleTech he can outline an >> engineering task list. >> > > That would be cool. Maybe I can take an isolated task. > > Wiki is

[sword-devel] Get DD

2008-01-28 Thread M Mital
Greetings, Is there a way to get a list of all available daily devotionals on the system (differentiating them from the Lexicon/dictionary category)? I tried the following which returns the list of dictionaries and daily devotions together: for (it = pMgr->Modules.begin(); it != pMgr->Modu

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Ortley
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the idea to create a virtual class based off of Versekey that would look like a verse key to the various front ends (aside from Bible Desktop and the Firefox extension that's being developed right now) so nobody had to change their code? Also, with regard to

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread DavidTroidl
I found it! A little while back, somebody posted this reference. _http://www.ccel.org/refsys/refsys.html_ (http://www.ccel.org/refsys/refsys.html) Harry Plantinga has made a great start on various v11n schemes. Peace, David **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 28, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Martin Gruner wrote: >>> For bibles? Does that mean they will be stored as Genbooks in >>> future, at >>> least if a non-KJV versification scheme is used? >> >> That is what I understand. > > I am not sure I like this. Isn't VerseKey etc. prepared to work with > d

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Little
On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:56 AM, DM Smith wrote: > Chris mentioned that the tool to create one exist already: osis2gbs. > Perhaps they can be created and put into beta. I would think that > having > one or more in beta would spur development. I posted an example to beta: DRCgb. I was a little off o

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Martin Gruner
> > For bibles? Does that mean they will be stored as Genbooks in future, at > > least if a non-KJV versification scheme is used? > > That is what I understand. I am not sure I like this. Isn't VerseKey etc. prepared to work with dynamic versification, only canon.h fixed the index values to save

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Pham, Khoi
Few years ago, I modified the SWORD for Windows to include the Catholic Bible. Here is the link you can download it with the Catechism of the Catholic Church: http://cathnet.org/projects/jerome/cnsoftware/holybible/ Khoi (Paul) Pham 281.368.3012 direct 281.368.3737 fax -Original Message-

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Ortley
At this point I'd like to step up and point out that I've off and on talked about being interested in adding support to the detuerocanon/apocrypha, which in my mind would then springboard to handling dynamic versification. I've not personally done anything as I'm as busy as anybody else, on to

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
Frontend developers and end users are of course interested in having good support for navigating in a Bible so that giving a reference as input would give the expected output. It may be impossible to map references inside works so that the result would always be correct but I think that it might be

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread DM Smith
Martin Gruner wrote: > Hi DM, > > >> As Chris mentioned, canon.h will not be changed. The idea is to create >> a GenBook with a standard way of naming the keys, in the form >> OSISBookAbbr/ChapterNum/VerseNum. Replacing the / with . would result >> in an OSIS id. >> > > For bibles? Does tha

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Martin Gruner
Hi DM, > As Chris mentioned, canon.h will not be changed. The idea is to create > a GenBook with a standard way of naming the keys, in the form > OSISBookAbbr/ChapterNum/VerseNum. Replacing the / with . would result > in an OSIS id. For bibles? Does that mean they will be stored as Genbooks in fu

Re: [sword-devel] Coptic Book module

2008-01-28 Thread peter
> Does this text is really based on > the Bible; does it reference relevant verses, without bypass keys verses > against monophysite? Or is it based on other monophysite texts? > > I don't know this book, nor the author, nor this subject, but some of the > books I readed (some evangelical, som

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Brian J. Dumont
> > BTW how many variants are there? > > There is obviously teh RC and Greek Orthodox way of including the > apogrypohae into their canon with a whole range of resulting chnages. > But any other important schemes? > > There are some very heavily-used Bibles that have *extremely* different numbe

Re: [sword-devel] Coptic Book module

2008-01-28 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008 9:10 AM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm certainly not the arbiter of orthodoxy, but have a couple >> points to >> mention. First, CrossWire definitely isn't an Evangelical >> organization >> in the sense th

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:36 AM, peter wrote: > Barry Drake wrote: >> Hi Peter ... >> >> peter wrote: >>> So could I - once that number mystery is understood - create a >>> different >>> canon.h file for e.g RC versification and recompile Sword ? >> >> I'm sure you could - but you'd break i

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread peter
Chris Little wrote: > Significantly, using TreeKeys means you don't have to know about > versification schemes or pick one (unless you need to do mapping). > > New modules that use new versification schemes don't require more coding > in the API, they're inherent to the module itself. ok, th

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Little
peter wrote: > Being no coder, I can not see how completely new way of encoding Bibles > should be the right way forward - particularly as it would result in > > a) a possibly long period of breakage/poor implementation on various > GUIs (+ some GUIs which are perfectly fine now will never get i

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Little
Barry Drake wrote: > Hi Peter . > > peter wrote: >> BTW how many variants are there? > > Chris is the expert on this. As I understand it, the two main schemes > in use are the LXX versification and the kjv with and without apocrypha. > The only other significant one is the Coptic s

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Martin Gruner
Hi, the Vulgate is another important difference, IIRC. regards, mg am Montag, 28. Januar 2008 um 13:29 schrieben Sie: > So basically 2 big ones LXX and KJV and any number of variations on > either. And KJV comes with/without apogryphae > I do remember seeing in my Lutherbible a long list of ve

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread peter
So basically 2 big ones LXX and KJV and any number of variations on either. And KJV comes with/without apogryphae I do remember seeing in my Lutherbible a long list of versification deviations to older prints. Peter peter wrote: > Barry Drake wrote: >> Hi Peter ... >> >> peter wrote: >>

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Barry Drake
Hi Peter . peter wrote: > BTW how many variants are there? Chris is the expert on this. As I understand it, the two main schemes in use are the LXX versification and the kjv with and without apocrypha. The only other significant one is the Coptic scheme. However there are a number

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread peter
Barry Drake wrote: > Hi Peter ... > > peter wrote: >> So could I - once that number mystery is understood - create a different >> canon.h file for e.g RC versification and recompile Sword ? > > I'm sure you could - but you'd break it as far as all existing modules > are concerned! I ap

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Barry Drake
Hi Peter ... peter wrote: > So could I - once that number mystery is understood - create a different > canon.h file for e.g RC versification and recompile Sword ? I'm sure you could - but you'd break it as far as all existing modules are concerned! God bless, Barry -- From Barry Drake

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread peter
Most of this file is self explanatory, but for the four blocks of numbers after line 483. I first thought this is the cumulative verse count, but this does not seem to make sense. So could I - once that number mystery is understood - create a different canon.h file for e.g RC versification and rec

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread peter
Thanks! Barry Drake wrote: > Hi there > > peter wrote: >> I have just now looked through the code of libsword and could not find >> where it gets its versification scheme. > > Look in canon.h for all the information that the library uses. > > God bless, > Barry > > -- From Barry Drak

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there peter wrote: > I have just now looked through the code of libsword and could not find > where it gets its versification scheme. Look in canon.h for all the information that the library uses. God bless, Barry -- From Barry Drake (The Revd) minister of the Netherfield United R

Re: [sword-devel] Versification

2008-01-28 Thread peter
Chris Little wrote: > We don't really need help in deciding how to represent Bibles that > don't use the KJV versification. That detail is already decided. We'll > be using GenBooks with OSIS-style refs as the keys. So Gen 1:1 goes > in /Gen/1/1 and so forth. > > We can make these Bibles rig

Re: [sword-devel] Coptic Book module

2008-01-28 Thread Sebastien Koechlin
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:10:28PM -0800, Chris Little wrote: > I don't know where monophysitism falls with respect to our loosely > defined metric of orthodoxy, but my vote would be to add this text to > the repository. It helps to build bridges, which is a good thing. (...) > peter wrote: > > A