On May 28, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/28/14 18:53, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 01:53:28PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>>> On May 28, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Konstantin Belousov
>>> wrote:
>>>
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 09:35:27AM -0600, Warner Losh
On 05/28/14 18:53, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 01:53:28PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
On May 28, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 09:35:27AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
On May 28, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
On Wed, M
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 01:53:28PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On May 28, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 09:35:27AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> >>
> >> On May 28, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Konstantin Belousov
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 a
On May 28, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 09:35:27AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>> On May 28, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 08:26:58AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
Then we disagree on this point. H
On 05/28/14 08:47, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 09:35:27AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
On May 28, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 08:26:58AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
Then we disagree on this point. However, the disagreement here is
ki
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 09:35:27AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On May 28, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 08:26:58AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> >>
> >> Then we disagree on this point. However, the disagreement here is
> >> kinda foundational: to bui
On May 28, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 08:26:58AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>> Then we disagree on this point. However, the disagreement here is
>> kinda foundational: to build a set of libraries or sys root, you have
>> to have a MACHINE_ARCH to ma
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 08:26:58AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> Then we disagree on this point. However, the disagreement here is
> kinda foundational: to build a set of libraries or sys root, you have
> to have a MACHINE_ARCH to make it work. Even in our current system, we
> set MACHINE_ARCH to
On May 28, 2014, at 4:50 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 14:31:44 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>> On May 27, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 May 2014 07:18:06 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 27, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Ma
On Tue, 27 May 2014 14:31:44 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 27, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 May 2014 07:18:06 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:31:21 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>>> So I?m still wa
On May 27, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 07:18:06 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>> On May 27, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:31:21 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 26, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Mon, 26 M
On Tue, 27 May 2014 07:18:06 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 27, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:31:21 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>>> On May 26, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:53:57 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 26, 2
On May 27, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:31:21 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>> On May 26, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:53:57 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 26, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn
wrote:
> On 0
On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:31:21 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 26, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:53:57 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>>> On May 26, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn
>>> wrote:
On 05/26/14 02:35, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> I suppose you coul
On Mon, 26 May 2014 18:47:34 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> I've written two patches today. The first
> (http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/pkg_machinearch.diff) is to pkg
> itself and the second
> (http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/pkg_bootstrap_machinearch.diff)
> is to the pkg bootst
-head@freebsd.org; Glen Barber;
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r266553 - head/release/scripts
On 05/26/14 02:35, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:00:18 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 24, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
On May 24
d.org; Glen Barber;
> svn-src-...@freebsd.org; src-committ...@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r266553 - head/release/scripts
>
> On 05/26/14 02:35, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:00:18 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> >> On May 24, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Warner L
On May 26, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:53:57 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>> On May 26, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>> On 05/26/14 02:35, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:00:18 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 24, 2014, at 5:
On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:53:57 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 26, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>> On 05/26/14 02:35, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:00:18 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 24, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 24, 2014, at 5:13 PM
On May 26, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/26/14 02:35, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:00:18 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>>> On May 24, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
On May 24, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> There isn't necessarily any
On 05/26/14 02:35, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:00:18 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 24, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
On May 24, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
There isn't necessarily any chroot environment. There's one kernel,
two equally valid ABIs (ILP32
On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:00:18 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 24, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>> On May 24, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> There isn't necessarily any chroot environment. There's one kernel,
>>> two equally valid ABIs (ILP32 and LP64) and any binary like un
On May 24, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On May 24, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 May 2014 11:57:44 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>> On 05/24/14 11:23, Ian Lepore wrote:
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 18:53 +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 20
On May 24, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 11:57:44 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>> On 05/24/14 11:23, Ian Lepore wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 18:53 +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 09:04:33 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/24/14 0
On Sat, 24 May 2014 11:57:44 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/24/14 11:23, Ian Lepore wrote:
>> On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 18:53 +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 May 2014 09:04:33 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/24/14 07:59, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:
On May 24, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/24/14 11:23, Ian Lepore wrote:
>> On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 18:53 +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 May 2014 09:04:33 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/24/14 07:59, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:48
On May 24, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 09:04:33 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>> On 05/24/14 07:59, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:48 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 23, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, May 2
On 05/24/14 11:23, Ian Lepore wrote:
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 18:53 +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 09:04:33 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/24/14 07:59, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:48 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 23, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Baptiste Darous
On May 24, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:48 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>> On May 23, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 18:53 +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 09:04:33 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> > On 05/24/14 07:59, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> >> On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:48 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> >>> On May 23, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri,
On Sat, 24 May 2014 09:04:33 -0700 Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/24/14 07:59, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:48 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
>>> On May 23, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On
On 05/24/14 07:59, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:48 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
On May 23, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:
On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:29:48 -0600 Warner Losh wrote:
> On May 23, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>> On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrot
On 05/23/14 19:33, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 2014-05-23 18:15, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 14:34, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14
On 2014-05-23 18:15, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 14:34, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 10:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri
On 2014-05-23 17:34, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 10:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:11:47AM -0700, Nathan W
On May 23, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>> Is there any chance of finally switching the pkg abi identifiers to just
>>> be uname -p?
>>> -Nathan
>> Keeping asking won
On May 23, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>> On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
Is there any chance of finally switching the pkg
On May 23, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 04:15:05PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>
>> On 05/23/14 14:34, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 04:15:05PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>
> On 05/23/14 14:34, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> > On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> >> On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/23/1
On May 23, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>> On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 10:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1
On 05/23/14 14:34, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 10:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:11:47AM -0700, Nathan Wh
Bryan Drewery wrote this message on Fri, May 23, 2014 at 16:34 -0500:
> On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> >Knowing a priori which architectures are "supported" by a chroot based
> >on ELF type of /bin/sh doesn't even work. How do you know what kernel
> >will be running in there and how
On 2014-05-23 16:19, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 10:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:11:47AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:45, Baptist
On 05/23/14 12:27, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 10:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:11:47AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:45, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 0
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:01:08PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>
> On 05/23/14 10:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:11:47AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> >> On 05/23/14 09:45, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:38:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehor
On 05/23/14 10:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:11:47AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:45, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:38:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 0
On 05/23/14 10:24, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 2014-05-23 12:11, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:45, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:38:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Wh
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:11:47AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>
> On 05/23/14 09:45, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:38:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> >> On 05/23/14 09:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehor
On 2014-05-23 12:11, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:45, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:38:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptist
On 05/23/14 09:45, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:38:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 09:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 0
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:38:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/23/14 09:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> >> On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn w
On 05/23/14 09:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
Is there any chance of finally switching the pkg abi identifiers to just
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:52:28AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> >> Is there any chance of finally switching the pkg abi identifiers to just
> >> be uname -p?
> >> -Nathan
> > Kee
On 05/23/14 08:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
Is there any chance of finally switching the pkg abi identifiers to just
be uname -p?
-Nathan
Keeping asking won't make it happen, I have explained a large number of time
why it
happe
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> Is there any chance of finally switching the pkg abi identifiers to just
> be uname -p?
> -Nathan
Keeping asking won't make it happen, I have explained a large number of time
why it
happened, why it is not easy for compatibility
It would certainly make my life easier. But until such thing is done in
pkg(7) code, I have to put things in a directory structure that pkg(7)
can "just use" for on-disc packages.
Glen
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> Is there any chance of finally switching th
Is there any chance of finally switching the pkg abi identifiers to just
be uname -p?
-Nathan
On 05/22/14 12:22, Glen Barber wrote:
Author: gjb
Date: Thu May 22 19:22:03 2014
New Revision: 266553
URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/266553
Log:
Add forward-compatibility glue with p
Author: gjb
Date: Thu May 22 19:22:03 2014
New Revision: 266553
URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/266553
Log:
Add forward-compatibility glue with pkg-1.3:
- Use ASSUME_ALWAYS_YES=YES instead of ASSUME_ALWAYS_YES=1
since pkg-1.3 expects "yes" or "true" values.
- Before expo
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