Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-28 Thread John Baldwin
On 1/25/19 1:50 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: >> mergemaster, iirc, will merge in changes to etc files after an upgrade. >> So this would effect anybody that goes through an upgrade and performs >> mergemaster. > > No, it won't - it doesn't affect files in /etc at all. It doesn't > affect stuff th

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-27 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 01:35:18PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: > ... > Wait a sec... something has been stable and working fine for 30 years, > then it gets changed to reflect one man's personal preferences, and > it's the people who object to that who have to jump through flaming > hoops to justify t

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Ian Lepore
On Sat, 2019-01-26 at 11:11 -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote: > I didn't really feel the need to weigh in on this bikeshed thread > previously, but apparently some folks are calling for a revert. Why? > I don't really understand how this meets the high bar for summary > revert, even if you disagree with

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Conrad Meyer
I didn't really feel the need to weigh in on this bikeshed thread previously, but apparently some folks are calling for a revert. Why? I don't really understand how this meets the high bar for summary revert, even if you disagree with the change made (and disagreement is fine, of course). So I'll

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Devin Teske
> On Jan 26, 2019, at 9:55 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-01-26 at 09:17 -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >>> On Sat, 2019-01-26 at 13:18 +, Edward Napierala wrote: On 0125T1647, Devin Teske wrote: >> On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala < >> tr...@freebsd.org>

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Ian Lepore
On Sat, 2019-01-26 at 09:17 -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-01-26 at 13:18 +, Edward Napierala wrote: > > > On 0125T1647, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala < > > > > > tr...@freebsd.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > On 0125T1530, Devin Tesk

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On 0125T1647, Devin Teske wrote: > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > > On 0125T1530, Devin Teske wrote: > > >>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Edward Napierala > > >>> wrote: > > >>> On 0125T1441, Devin Teske wrote: > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napier

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Sat, 2019-01-26 at 13:18 +, Edward Napierala wrote: > > On 0125T1647, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala > > > > wrote: > > > > On 0125T1530, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Edward Napierala < > > > > > > tr...@freebsd.org

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Ian Lepore
On Sat, 2019-01-26 at 13:18 +, Edward Napierala wrote: > On 0125T1647, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala > > > wrote: > > > > > > On 0125T1530, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Edward Napierala < > > >

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Edward Napierala
sob., 26 sty 2019 o 01:38 Rodney W. Grimes napisał(a): > > > On 0125T1705, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Chop with the big axe most of this as I need to clarify a miss statement. > > > ... > > > > > The change we're d

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-26 Thread Edward Napierala
On 0125T1647, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > > > On 0125T1530, Devin Teske wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: > >>> > >>> On 0125T1441, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2019,

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Edward Napierala
On 0125T1705, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > Chop with the big axe most of this as I need to clarify a miss statement. > ... > > > The change we're discussing doesn't affect upgrades at all - it's only > > > for new installs. > > > > mergem

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On 0125T1705, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > > > Chop with the big axe most of this as I need to clarify a miss statement. > > ... > > > > The change we're discussing doesn't affect upgrades at all - it's only > > > > for new installs. >

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Edward Napierala
Excuse my brevity; I'll address the rest after getting some sleep, but I'd like to clarify one crucial thing. I think that's actually _the_ point where I screwed up: I didn't expect people to actually care for what I considered a cosmetic change, and I didn't realize the need to explain what this

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: Chop with the big axe most of this as I need to clarify a miss statement. ... > > The change we're discussing doesn't affect upgrades at all - it's only > > for new installs. > > mergemaster, iirc, will merge in changes to etc files after

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Devin Teske
> On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > On 0125T1530, Devin Teske wrote: >> >> >>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: >>> >>> On 0125T1441, Devin Teske wrote: > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > pt., 25 s

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Edward Napierala
On 0125T1530, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > > > On 0125T1441, Devin Teske wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napierala wrote: > >>> > >>> pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes > >>> mailto:free...@pdx.rh.cn85

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Devin Teske
> On Jan 25, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > On 0125T1441, Devin Teske wrote: >> >> >>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napierala wrote: >>> >>> pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes >>> mailto:free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>> >>> napisał(a): > Author: tras

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Edward Napierala
On 0125T1441, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > > > pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes > > mailto:free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>> > > napisał(a): > >> > >>> Author: trasz > >>> Date: Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 2019 > >>> New Revision: 343440

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Devin Teske
> On Jan 25, 2019, at 2:41 PM, Devin Teske wrote: > > > >> On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napierala > > wrote: >> >> pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes >> mailto:free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>> >> napisał(a): >>> Author: trasz Date: Fri Jan

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Devin Teske
> On Jan 25, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Devin Teske wrote: > > > >> On Jan 25, 2019, at 2:41 PM, Devin Teske > > wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napierala >> > wrote: >>> >>> pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes >>>

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Devin Teske
> On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napierala wrote: > > pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes > mailto:free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>> > napisał(a): >> >>> Author: trasz >>> Date: Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 2019 >>> New Revision: 343440 >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/3434

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes > napisa?(a): > > > > > Author: trasz > > > Date: Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 2019 > > > New Revision: 343440 > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/343440 > > > > > > Log: > > > Comment out the default sh(1) aliases for root, introduced in r3434

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Edward Napierala
pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes napisał(a): > > > Author: trasz > > Date: Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 2019 > > New Revision: 343440 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/343440 > > > > Log: > > Comment out the default sh(1) aliases for root, introduced in r343416. > > The rest o

Re: svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Author: trasz > Date: Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 2019 > New Revision: 343440 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/343440 > > Log: > Comment out the default sh(1) aliases for root, introduced in r343416. > The rest of this stuff is still to be discussed, but I think at this > point we

svn commit: r343440 - head/bin/sh

2019-01-25 Thread Edward Tomasz Napierala
Author: trasz Date: Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 2019 New Revision: 343440 URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/343440 Log: Comment out the default sh(1) aliases for root, introduced in r343416. The rest of this stuff is still to be discussed, but I think at this point we have the agreement