> On 0125T1647, Devin Teske wrote: > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:13 AM, Edward Napierala <tr...@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > On 0125T1530, Devin Teske wrote: > > >>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Edward Napierala <tr...@freebsd.org> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> On 0125T1441, Devin Teske wrote: > > >>>>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Edward Napierala <tr...@freebsd.org> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> pt., 25 sty 2019 o 19:57 Rodney W. Grimes > > >>>>> <free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net > > >>>>> <mailto:free...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>> napisa?(a): > > >>>>>>> Author: trasz > > >>>>>>> Date: Fri Jan 25 17:09:26 2019 > > >>>>>>> New Revision: 343440 > > >>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/343440 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Log: > > >>>>>>> Comment out the default sh(1) aliases for root, introduced in > > >>>>>>> r343416. > > >>>>>>> The rest of this stuff is still to be discussed, but I think at this > > >>>>>>> point we have the agreement that the aliases should go. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> MFC after: 2 weeks > > >>>>>>> Sponsored by: DARPA, AFRL > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Please just revert this and the prior commit out, and when > > >>>>>> the path forward is clear commit it. I would not want any of this > > >>>>>> merged to 12/ or 11/ until the time that it is all settled. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Oops, my bad - neither this nor the previous commit is supposed > > >>>>> to be MFC-ed; the "2 weeks" above comes from my default Subversion > > >>>>> config. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regarding the backoff - just a few hours ago you said you don't have > > >>>>> any problem with this, except for aliases and the default ENV. The > > >>>>> aliases problem has been addressed, and you hadn't yet responded > > >>>>> to my explanations regarding the ENV. Another committer asked for > > >>>>> backoff, because "sh is not an interactive shell", while in fact sh(1) > > >>>>> is FreeBSD's default interactive shell except for root. Finally, > > >>>>> there's > > >>>>> one person who asked for revert, but without giving any reasons > > >>>>> whatsoever. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So far nobody had proposed any scenario where this would break > > >>>>> anything, or even affect existing users. It seems like a typical > > >>>>> bikeshed > > >>>>> situation. > > >>>> > > >>>> It is not clear to me after reading r343416 and D18872 what this > > >>>> change is trying to solve. > > >>> > > >>> The idea is to make it easy to replace the default root shell - which > > >>> many people consider broken, due to not supporting basic shell syntax - > > >>> with > > >>> something that actually works. > > >> > > >> How exactly does changing PS1 or adding 6 aliases fix the "basic shell > > >> syntax" which you claim to be unsupported? > > >> > > >> If the number of aliases added to a shell are a measure of its > > >> brokenness, then bash must be hella broken (I have 43 aliases in my > > >> bash_profile). > > > > > > The aliases are gone. > > > > Fair enough, albeit the topic was r343416 and D18872. > > > > > > > Human-friendly PS1 is considered a standard feature > > > nowadays. > > > > I fail to see how ''$ " is unfriendly. > > How many people you know use a plain '$' as a shell prompt, > because they like it that way?
I am prefectly happy with any single character prompt on any OS I might happen to be working on, knowing that I can change it at my leasure. However I am NOT happy with a stringy long ass prompt that eats up half my command line when I am deep down a file hierarchy trying to fix some problem at a single user prompt on a hardwired conssole I had to jack into the box cause it wont come up. Yes I can change either at will, and so can anyone else who wants to, lets stop spoon feeding a new default and spoon feed up some docs on "you may want to tweak this" after you have installed. -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org _______________________________________________ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
