Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: To be ironic in email is difficult😇 Sorry... my irony was actually aimed at "stereo with heigh"t, reference to Ingvar Ö. and the "Swedish only" forum. Didn't want to be aggressive,... Input to most of my reflections is based on - I wanted to listen to my foa record

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Even stereo works better when you cannot see the loudspeakers :-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ___ Surso

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Ha! Yeah maybe elevation was the wrong word, and I am not very good at maths either ☺ This talk does remind me of when I first listened to Ambisonics. Every time I closed my eyes it worked, but as soon as I saw the speakers, my brain would pull the sound to the nearest speaker I was looking at.

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

To be ironic in email is difficult😇 Input to most of my reflections is based on - I wanted to listen to my foa recordings without having a 8 or 16 loudspeaker setup. - I admittedly have been in the wrong about the kemar head http://acoustics.org/pressroom/httpdocs/155th/fels.htm it do have shoulde

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Steven Boardman wrote: Some animals do not need to do this as much, as their ears aren't level. One ear canal is higher than the other. Owls are an example of this. It allows them to get elevation cues without tilting quite as much. This is also true of some humans, but a lot lot rarer, but

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

The direction dependant comb filtering caused by the angle of incidence / shape of the pinna will also change when you cock your head adding further localisation cues On 13 December 2015 at 10:05, Steven Boardman wrote: > Some animals do not need to do this as much, as their ears aren't level

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Some animals do not need to do this as much, as their ears aren't level. One ear canal is higher than the other. Owls are an example of this. It allows them to get elevation cues without tilting quite as much. This is also true of some humans, but a lot lot rarer, but we all have very slight di

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Augustine Leudar wrote: I think when you tilt your head - especially up - it allows interaural level and time differences to come into play that arent normally available for vertical soundsources. Basically the sound will hit one ear before the other and louder. We all know thats the case for ho

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

I think when you tilt your head - especially up - it allows interaural level and time differences to come into play that arent normally available for vertical soundsources. Basically the sound will hit one ear before the other and louder. We all know thats the case for horizontal sounds - but I thi

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Peter Lennox wrote: Of course, the paradigm that excludes head-tilt - necessary to control for experimental variables, does mean that the experiment is not representative (what some people refer to as 'ecological validity') of real-world localisation. Given that, when I look around the lec

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

> That raises the interesting question of 'how transient is a transient' to be > effective in respect of precedence effects? - my guess would be that the > figure would not be the same in the median and azimuthal planes. >From what I've found so far, transient doesn't really help vertical >loca

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015) On Thu Dec 10 07:26:49 EST 2015, Peter Lennox wrote: > Notably, Shinn-Cunningham also describes the disproportionate > weighting of onsets in precedence effects : " Perceptually, judgme

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Hyunkook Lee Sent: 10 December 2015 15:49 To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015) On Thu Dec 10 07:26:49 EST 2015, Peter Lennox wro

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

On Thu Dec 10 07:26:49 EST 2015, Peter Lennox wrote: > Notably, Shinn-Cunningham also describes the disproportionate weighting of > onsets in > precedence effects : " Perceptually, judgments of the direction of a sound > source depend > strongly on spatial information in the onset of sound and re

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

c.vt.edu] On Behalf Of > Augustine Leudar > Sent: 10 December 2015 15:29 > To: Surround Sound discussion group > Subject: Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation > (wallis and lee 2015) > > Gary Kendall gave us a fantastic demo of this phenomena at Sarc

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

nox https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Lennox -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Augustine Leudar Sent: 10 December 2015 15:29 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (walli

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

; e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk > t: 01332 593155 > https://derby.academia.edu/peterlennox > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Lennox > > -Original Message- > From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of > Hyunkook Lee > Sent: 10 December 2015 00:00

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

lf Of Hyunkook Lee Sent: 10 December 2015 00:00 To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015) Hello everyone, I am writing in response to the question raised regarding our recent JAES paper on vertical precedence effec

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

Hello everyone, I am writing in response to the question raised regarding our recent JAES paper on vertical precedence effect (Wallis and Lee). Firstly, on the debate about whether the precedence effect works vertically or not, we first need to clarify the original definition of the precedence